Pro Wrestling Discussion 75: The thread after Zane was screwed, and not by his cousin

[BRF]

Originally Posted by DoubleDrive

From a business standpoint, does it really make sense to build a building for the WWE Hall of Fame? I can't see how that can be even remotely profitable.

Certainly doesn't make sense to put a building up, as I don't see a lot of people making a pilgrimage to Stamford CT to go to a museum and see it. If they don't already do it, I think it would be a hit, and profitable for them to have a traveling HOF that goes to the big 4 PPVs and could be set up at the fan expos. It wouldn't take but a couple more trucks to pull this off and they could charge admission to the exhibit and still sell the HOF merch.

Originally Posted by BrooklynBomber

Eventually Vince agreed to give David another shot 3 years later, after David dyed his hair blonde and discovered steroids and looked like he had a Hulk Hogan starter kit. David worked a match in Canada against Dino Bravo in 88 and a particularly nasty ringsider who had been ragging on David said something that made David belt him in the face. David was quickly fired and Bruno suspects to this day that Vince Jr. planted the fan.

Never heard that, but it sounds absolutely plausible.

Originally Posted by zane

Curtains. It makes sense for them to run that setup. People just want reasons to bash them and go "loltna".

It makes sense to run that set up if they are putting up the curtains so it doesn't look like a black hole on tv. I would think they could find a smaller venue to suit their needs that would be much cheaper though.

[Smigg]

Originally Posted by BigSiv

Those stories got a run tonight but I will have a listen.

Ahhh, you're not gonna hear anything new from Bredon, but "Party" Marty Scurll was also on there (who was on TNA British Boot Camp), and he told stories, including Mason Ryan stories, and how funny it is, that this massive beast of a man is really called "Barri"

[HereticBD]

Originally Posted by BRF

It makes sense to run that set up if they are putting up the curtains so it doesn't look like a black hole on tv. I would think they could find a smaller venue to suit their needs that would be much cheaper though.

Exactly what I was thinking. I know TNA is owned by some very rich people, but why would you throw heaps of money away, renting out a stadium that might be filled to 10% capacity? It's such terrible business.

[Smigg]

Originally Posted by HereticBD

Exactly what I was thinking. I know TNA is owned by some very rich people, but why would you throw heaps of money away, renting out a stadium that might be filled to 10% capacity? It's such terrible business.

Because Vince is the same.

Look at the Condemned, he could have spent half the money on it, put it straight to DVD and made an absolute killing on that movie, because it's a good action movie.

However, Vince being Vince, he spends $20,000,000 making this movie, and then releases it in cinemas, just so he can say "I released a $20m movie in theatres!" Now, here's the problem, he releases this big action movie, how does he advertise it? On WWE shows, the people who were already going to go see the movie are the ones being advertised to.

Austin told a story about how much of a farce it was, one of the supporting actor's friends said to him "We went to see your new movie, we didn't know Stone Cold and Vinnie Jones was in it!" So, they just put it in the theatres just to say they did.

TNA are basically doing the same thing, they work one corner of the Alamodome, who cares if it's the corner? They're working The Alamodome! Now, if they manage to sell out that corner, what are they gonna say? "Our show at the Alamodome sold out!" Not "We sold out the Alamodome", "Our show at the Alamodome sold out!"

[DannyBoy1985]

Originally Posted by Its Me Austin

So Mr Anderson is in the Eights, but he's a Nomad?
And isn't this Brisco fella in the Eights too?

Edit: Why is Tazz still allowed in commentary?

Originally Posted by Its Me Austin

And they let a member of a violent motorcycle gang that's been terrorizing TNA for months stay on commentary...

Storyline-wise, it's because of the contract Tazz has with TNA. He pointed out in the promo he cut last week on Impact that because of his contract, there was nothing Dixie Carter or Hulk Hogan could do to him or about him or whatever.

[DannyBoy1985]

Originally Posted by BRF

It makes sense to run that set up if they are putting up the curtains so it doesn't look like a black hole on tv. I would think they could find a smaller venue to suit their needs that would be much cheaper though.

If they got the money, which of course they do (& beyond), they might as well run the Alamodome with that set-up and see how they do. If it goes well, go back there again with a set-up that's bigger and so on. If nothing else they can still claim they ran a show at the prestigious Alamodome, even if they didn't sell it out. This show to me is TNA testing the waters at the venue to see how well they do, they know they wouldn't sell out whole place, but it could be somewhere that they could perhaps do decent/good business in the future. If TNA weren't backed by a multi-billion dollar company, id say it'd probably be a huge mistake paying to use such a venue, but as things are with TNA & their financial backing, it's something they can try out & perhaps build upon in the future. Even if it completely fails, it's really no great loss for TNA in the end.

[DannyBoy1985]

3 years ago today we lost one of professional wrestling's all-time greats & absolutely one of the greatest NWA World Heavyweight Champions of all-time (and some would even say the greatest NWA Champion ever), Jack Brisco. God bless & RIP.

[MichinokuDriver]

Originally Posted by HereticBD

Exactly what I was thinking. I know TNA is owned by some very rich people, but why would you throw heaps of money away, renting out a stadium that might be filled to 10% capacity? It's such terrible business.

It's probably cheaper to run that set-up at the Alamodome, in actuality. With the AT&T Center taking most bookings and the severe lack of events for the Alamodome to hold at this day in age, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the Alamodome would be relatively cheaper than a newer venue that gets year-round bookings.

[HereticBD]

Originally Posted by Smigg

Because Vince is the same.

Look at the Condemned, he could have spent half the money on it, put it straight to DVD and made an absolute killing on that movie, because it's a good action movie.

However, Vince being Vince, he spends $20,000,000 making this movie, and then releases it in cinemas, just so he can say "I released a $20m movie in theatres!" Now, here's the problem, he releases this big action movie, how does he advertise it? On WWE shows, the people who were already going to go see the movie are the ones being advertised to.

Austin told a story about how much of a farce it was, one of the supporting actor's friends said to him "We went to see your new movie, we didn't know Stone Cold and Vinnie Jones was in it!" So, they just put it in the theatres just to say they did.

TNA are basically doing the same thing, they work one corner of the Alamodome, who cares if it's the corner? They're working The Alamodome! Now, if they manage to sell out that corner, what are they gonna say? "Our show at the Alamodome sold out!" Not "We sold out the Alamodome", "Our show at the Alamodome sold out!"

I think they're two different things though. I would call Vince's decision to go into the movie industry(or football, and bodybuilding) a calculated risk. He's just trying out a new business. At the very least, there is a method to Vince's madness. He's taking chances that have a potential upside. I can respect that.

With TNA, it's just senseless stupidity. There is no upside. They're just burning money. They can barely fill a 500 seat arena for house shows, so they go and rent out the fucking Alamodome? It's completely retarded.

[Francis Rossi]

Originally Posted by DannyBoy1985

Storyline-wise, it's because of the contract Tazz has with TNA. He pointed out in the promo he cut last week on Impact that because of his contract, there was nothing Dixie Carter or Hulk Hogan could do to him or about him or whatever.

I love wrestling "contracts". You apparently can't get fired for ANYTHING