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Old 01-29-2013, 03:50 AM   #261
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So basically it's too difficult to monitor your heart rate and your time and effort would be better spent running?
To be fair, if you're doing bag work then it's difficult to keep track of HR due to the fact that you'd be wearing gloves, and therefore unable to see the display on your watch. Shadow boxing can work, but in all honestly, it's mentally draining to be doing the same thing alllllll the time.

I believe that using general conditioning methods for LISS helps to keep the mind and body fresh, as it introduces variety into one's training.

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Old 01-29-2013, 05:04 AM   #262
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I'm currently 6'1 268 fat(about 60% bf) and was wondering if I should cut to 155 first before gaining muscle and strength or if I should stick to lifting as well. I currently do a full body 3 times a week

2 sets of

Bench press
Squat
Military press
Triceps push downs
Db curls
Rows
Lat pulldowns
Leg curl
Leg ext

I do this with cardio 6 days a week at moderate intensity for 45-60 minutes. I also maintain a strict diet of less than 2000 cals daily

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Old 01-29-2013, 12:34 PM   #263
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To be fair, if you're doing bag work then it's difficult to keep track of HR due to the fact that you'd be wearing gloves, and therefore unable to see the display on your watch. Shadow boxing can work, but in all honestly, it's mentally draining to be doing the same thing alllllll the time.

I believe that using general conditioning methods for LISS helps to keep the mind and body fresh, as it introduces variety into one's training.
Fair enough. Thanks for the help KT and Midnighter

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Old 01-29-2013, 06:44 PM   #264
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Can anybody give me some cues as to how I can better keep my ass down when deadlifting? I feel like it starts getting a bit wonky whenever I go above 80% of my 1rm.

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Old 01-30-2013, 01:22 AM   #265
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I'm changing my workout routine and am wondering if I may be putting on too much.

This is my current work out. For each exercise, I do two warm up sets and three heavy sets, except for squat and deadlift which I do three warm up sets.

Workout A:
Squat
DL
Pullups
Bent-over rows
leg raises
incline situps
Bench
rack holds

Workout B:
Squat
DL
Pullups
Bent-over rows
leg raises
incline situps
OHP
rack holds

I alternate workouts and I lift every other day. I've been doing this routine for 2.5 months now and feel like I've plateaued.

I want to switch to a routine where I lift everyday and do six out of the nine exercises I've been doing per day. This means that generally, I will be doing one exercise (say squat) three days in a row and then have a day off. Is this too much for someone like me to handle?




I've had some problems with putting the weight down on my deadlift. I've read some sources say you shouldn't start bending your knees till the bar reaches knee level. When I try that, I feel like I lose control of the weight as my center of gravity is kind of far forward. But then again, if I bend my knees much sooner than that, I feel more control but I also hit the top of my knees on occasion.


also, is there any real good way of DLing with hex plates? shit is pissing me off.

why are they called hex plates? they're clearly not hexagonal.

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:56 AM   #266
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I'm changing my workout routine and am wondering if I may be putting on too much.

This is my current work out. For each exercise, I do two warm up sets and three heavy sets, except for squat and deadlift which I do three warm up sets.

Workout A:
Squat
DL
Pullups
Bent-over rows
leg raises
incline situps
Bench
rack holds

Workout B:
Squat
DL
Pullups
Bent-over rows
leg raises
incline situps
OHP
rack holds

I alternate workouts and I lift every other day. I've been doing this routine for 2.5 months now and feel like I've plateaued.

I want to switch to a routine where I lift everyday and do six out of the nine exercises I've been doing per day. This means that generally, I will be doing one exercise (say squat) three days in a row and then have a day off. Is this too much for someone like me to handle?




I've had some problems with putting the weight down on my deadlift. I've read some sources say you shouldn't start bending your knees till the bar reaches knee level. When I try that, I feel like I lose control of the weight as my center of gravity is kind of far forward. But then again, if I bend my knees much sooner than that, I feel more control but I also hit the top of my knees on occasion.


also, is there any real good way of DLing with hex plates? shit is pissing me off.

why are they called hex plates? they're clearly not hexagonal.
Hi. I'm not the most experienced guy here, but the following info will prob get you a better response:
-why heavy DLs every workout? That's a lot, esp for a beginner.
-what does 'feel like plateau' mean? Are you trying to. Add weight to the bar and failing reps?
-why not just a tried and true beginner program?
-what are your goals?

For the hex plates, I've only used them once. Reset after every rep. Then find a new gym with DL and oly platforms and bumper plates

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Old 01-31-2013, 10:07 PM   #267
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I don't seem to have any problems with DL every other day and honestly, that along with squats are my favorite exercises and they simply feel good. I was thinking most people would say that that might be a little overdoing it for a beginner, but I haven't felt any injury or overfatiguing from it.

By plateauing I mean I'm not seeing progress. Right now I'm attempting to squat 250 for 6 reps and usually only getting five on my second and third sets. I've kinda been stuck like this for a while now. Same goes for my other lifts.

My goals are simply to get stronger in the lifts I'm performing.

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Old 01-31-2013, 10:41 PM   #268
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Well, obviously, you do have a problem if you can't finish your reps.

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Old 01-31-2013, 11:13 PM   #269
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I'm confused.. I don't see how that's a problem.. I thought it is to be expected to fail on heavy sets once in a while no matter what routine you do. Is that wrong?

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Old 01-31-2013, 11:31 PM   #270
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I once went about 8 months without failing a squat rep, while the weight got heavier each workout with a planned progression. Failing reps isn't a good thing, especially if it happens often.

You're trying to do too much. If I were to follow your listed routine, it would probably take me 3hrs to get through it and achieve something meaningful and worthwhile from each lift in order to justify it's inclusion in that program. If you can get through all that work faster, you're not working hard enough. Also, your Day A and B are identical save for bench versus OHP. That seems silly.

I would personally follow a simple program detailed in the FAQ. As you get stronger and realize what does and doesn't work, I would make little tweaks here and there and give them a test run for a few cycles before adding anything else.

Rambly post. Tired.

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