Jack3D linked to several death

[ScroogeMcDuck]

Originally Posted by HendoTheGoat

First of all the only thing on your little stupid list that can actually kill is coke. second caling me a "moran" or whatever was completely unnecessary. But then again this is the internet, people cant express their opinion without being an ass, right?

Don't you think the ironic thing about him calling you a moron, is the fact he spelt moron wrong?

Or is that how ya'll 'mericans spell it?

[scottm]

Originally Posted by hardheart

You can't prove that. DMAA is a mild vaso constrictor. The problem is that people go off and take multiple supplements and don't realize what they're putting in their bodies.

Among OTC fat burners, one of the most common combos is L-Tyrosine and Yohimbe. That's basically a prescription for a heart attack. If I remember correctly, Tyrosine is an alpha agitator, and Yohimbe is a beta antagonist and results in a moderate rise in blood pressure which, when done at higher dosages will cause a heart attack.

An unregulated, synthetically produced product that could "narrow blood vessels and arteries, which can elevate blood pressure and may lead to shortness of breath and even heart attack, according to the FDA."
Yes I know we don't want to hold the FDA up on a pedestal, but I look at anything that has potential for death as something I don't want to prove myself, regardless of it being even a small possibility.

http://www.uta.edu/news/releases/201...trong-dmaa.php

[snoop dogg]

N.O. xplode > Jack3d

APS mesomorph is the best pwo ive ever had. its really popular in my town.

[anaconda]

Originally Posted by silent_samurai

Don't you think the ironic thing about him calling you a moron, is the fact he spelt moron wrong?

Or is that how ya'll 'mericans spell it?

[hardheart]

Originally Posted by HendoTheGoat

First of all the only thing on your little stupid list that can actually kill is coke. second caling me a "moran" or whatever was completely unnecessary. But then again this is the internet, people cant express their opinion without being an ass, right?

Only coke can kill from that list? Are you sure about that?

Originally Posted by silent_samurai

Don't you think the ironic thing about him calling you a moron, is the fact he spelt moron wrong?

Or is that how ya'll 'mericans spell it?

I see Anaconda took care of explaining the joke for me.

Originally Posted by scottm

An unregulated, synthetically produced product that could "narrow blood vessels and arteries, which can elevate blood pressure and may lead to shortness of breath and even heart attack, according to the FDA."
Yes I know we don't want to hold the FDA up on a pedestal, but I look at anything that has potential for death as something I don't want to prove myself, regardless of it being even a small possibility.

http://www.uta.edu/news/releases/201...trong-dmaa.php

The FDA is stupid. They are completely reactionary in nature. Yes, DMAA is a vaso-constrictor, and if you take too much you could die.

"Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol."

Under the correct context, ANYTHING can sound scary.

[ScroogeMcDuck]

Originally Posted by hardheart

I see Anaconda took care of explaining the joke for me.

Then I stand corrected. Clearly the only moran here is me.

[Hugo Drax]

Originally Posted by silent_samurai

I've taken Jack3d, nothing happened, no pump....

Same here. I bought it online (a1supplements) but felt like I wasted 30 bucks.

[CerebralPrimate]

Originally Posted by anaconda

I like how all of the descriptions start out with saying DMAA has an amphetamine-like effect, which is why its so dangerous - meanwhile, 20 million prescriptions of adderall (amphetamine!!!) per year is ok?

Villainizing stimulants like ephedrine and DMAA due to a couple of deaths, when they hand out adderall like candy, is absolutely ridiculous.

You dont understand... things like Adderall and Phentermine are totally safe because they are sold by extremely large, influential pharmaceutical companies that dole out campaign contributions right, left & center.

[anaconda]

Originally Posted by CerebralPrimate

You dont understand... things like Adderall and Phentermine are totally safe because they are sold by extremely large, influential pharmaceutical companies that dole out campaign contributions right, left & center.

Pretty much

I've used DMAA for a long time without any adverse affects. As long as you're no an idiot and take huge doses I think its fairly benign. If I have a heart attack I'll let you all know...

But seriously, DMAA doesn't even make my heart race like ephedrine did.

[LS1Rx7]

I took aderall for about a decade to just get through school... hope it's not an issue. But I have no interest in stimulants, other than the 1 cup of coffee I have each day.

Adderall though is as bad if not worse than any stimulant I've tried. I tried ephedrine and jacked, neither was as much of a stimulant as adderral.