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Old 01-31-2013, 12:44 AM   #1
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Icon4 Supplementing w/ Gamma-Tocopherol Vitamin E

There seems to be more evidence that supplementing with this specific form of Vitamin E potentially has an positive affect on cardiovascular health and possibly anti -carcinogenic.

I've heard guys like Robb Wolf suggest that over supplementing with "antioxidants" like super doses of Vitamin C for instance can actually be a bad thing for your immune system and possibly do more harm than good. Anyway do you think its worth supplementing with a mild does of this form of vitamin 5 if the budget allows? What say you...


http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Suppleme...ml#health-menu

http://resources.purematters.com/her...mma-tocopherol


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Old 01-31-2013, 02:57 AM   #2
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good reads

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Read both articles and it seems that the gamma type of Vit E is better for you the the alpha type. I would have to read more articles about it but I would say give it a try and see what, if any, effects occur. I would keep reading about it though, and try to hit up a all natural store.

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I'd also want to know people's thoughts on if say you do supplement with this so you would have less of a negative affect of glucose spiking after eating and then decided not to take it would there be negative affects b/c your body was use to taking something and then all the sudden you stop?

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I'd also want to know people's thoughts on if say you do supplement with this so you would have less of a negative affect of glucose spiking after eating and then decided not to take it would there be negative affects b/c your body was use to taking something and then all the sudden you stop?

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Vitamin E is just a chain breaker, and in small doses shouldn't have any appreciable long-term negative effect on your own internal anti-oxidant system. Just keep the doses reasonable while getting your stress in from healthy sources (exercise, food, conversation, deep thought/focus, etc).

Vitamin E doesn't have much to do with glucose either, it's an agent to control oxidation from lipid peroxides and malondialdehyde, which are precusors of downstream glycolated proteins. So it has an very indirect effect on glucose spiking (which isn't really a concern in a healthy person anyway, as this is effectively regulated by the body in healthy people).

tbh though I don't know much of the difference on gamma vs. alpha. haven't looked into that at all.

as for your other question that you PM'd me: I have no idea. Never heard of either of them. If I ever find out more I'll let you know.

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Vitamin E is just a chain breaker, and in small doses shouldn't have any appreciable long-term negative effect on your own internal anti-oxidant system. Just keep the doses reasonable while getting your stress in from healthy sources (exercise, food, conversation, deep thought/focus, etc).

Vitamin E doesn't have much to do with glucose either, it's an agent to control oxidation from lipid peroxides and malondialdehyde, which are precusors of downstream glycolated proteins. So it has an very indirect effect on glucose spiking (which isn't really a concern in a healthy person anyway, as this is effectively regulated by the body in healthy people).

tbh though I don't know much of the difference on gamma vs. alpha. haven't looked into that at all.

as for your other question that you PM'd me: I have no idea. Never heard of either of them. If I ever find out more I'll let you know.
So a mega dose of any "anit oxidant" isn't a good thing and possible/or probably actually a bad thing. I guess the crux of the matter is figuring out what a good or optimal dose is for yourself or at least people in general. For example your probably not an advocate of taking 2-3g of Vitamin C when your sick but maybe a 500-1000mg everyday or not so much? And i guess the same would apply to anti oxidant nutrients like pomegranate or Acai etc.? Or are they different b/c they are food specific nutrients even in extract form and not a purely synthetic version of a vitamin like a supplement like Vitamin C pill?

Also, wouldn't controlling/limiting glucose spiking be a generally good thing even if it was only positively affecting your body in a small way? Thanks for the insight.

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For example your probably not an advocate of taking 2-3g of Vitamin C when your sick but maybe a 500-1000mg everyday or not so much? And i guess the same would apply to anti oxidant nutrients like pomegranate or Acai etc.? Or are they different b/c they are food specific nutrients even in extract form and not a purely synthetic version of a vitamin like a supplement like Vitamin C pill?
I'm an advocate of eating fruits and fruit juice, vegetables, and food with vitamin c in it and not worrying much else past that.

i would never trust an RDA more than my palate.

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No, there is nothing wrong with temporal spikes in glucose. They are likely beneficial to an extent.

don't be so orthorexic

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