10 oz gloves with protection but still light weight that ≠ Winnings?

[Minowafanatic]

If the RB2s are protective enough for you then it seems like there's going to be a lot of gloves that'd do the job well, even at 10oz, and I don't think you'll notice much of a change from 12 to 10. I think the RB1s look cheap personally but other people seemed to like them. I'd look at Punchtown or Hayabusa.

edit: just realised you'll probably be okay with lace-ups seeing as you mentioned the safe-tecs, which aren't good for bagwork anyway but most Thai brands have lace-ups that are the same style as Western boxing gloves and are good quality. Zepols already mentioned and anything from Technoir is bound to be good if your budget will stretch that far

On a final note...I'm surprised nobody has reviewed these gloves from rival: http://www.rivalboxing.com/en/boxing...p17675314.html

A friend of mine has these and tbh they're not anything special. A review is up now for them though I think

[mixedmajik]

@BigCP are those members on the forum? I don't know people by first name here...

@Minow...Thanks for the viewpoint on the RB evolutions...I suspected they weren't doing well because normally new gloves get an abundance of reviews around here...I'll do some digging for the review...the problem with rival is they have stupid names for their gloves that make it hard to find reviews...Rb evolution aka rs11 aka r11 aka whatever -.-

And yeah I don't really hurt my hand on the heavy bag and such because I'm very conscience of it, I don't usually try and hit at 100% for a long time...I switch up to DE bag and stuff every few rounds to give my hands a break...

Also...I'm actually very open to the idea of lace ups since they tend to be a little cheaper...and I've never tried a lace up before...only velcro..and I want to see the difference lace ups make for my wrists since they apparently are quite good for wrist protection...which I have hurt on occassion throwing. The RB1's were only on my radar for that new wrist thing...and the fact that apparently the microfibre is solid enough for 10oz...I've since read up on a brand called twins and am unsure about it...just looking around for that next best thing.

[mrcupide2]

I have 10 oz safetec gloves and they might be exactly what you are looking for.
Safetec are pro fight gloves with basically more padding.
They fit your hand just like real fight gloves and I would just invest the extra $$.
You can maybe even look on ebay

[mixedmajik]

Originally Posted by mrcupide2

I have 10 oz safetec gloves and they might be exactly what you are looking for.
Safetec are pro fight gloves with basically more padding.
They fit your hand just like real fight gloves and I would just invest the extra $$.
You can maybe even look on ebay

How have they held up for you doing heavy bag and mittwork (which I'lll assume you do?)...Thanks. I'm not sure if I have hand problems so I wouldn't want to find out the hard way...sissy mentality one gets when they've never broken a bone in their life before -.-

[John FCS]

Originally Posted by mixedmajik

@bubkus Not really a fan of no real thumb compartment of gloves and they dont have 10oz sizes available (at the time that I clicked the link)...curious as to the second half of your post though...it seems that 2oz's does make a difference doesn't it...because by your logic heavyweights shouldn't bother using 10oz and should just use 8 like they used to in the old days...and by the same logic it would make no difference if lightweights fought with 10oz gloves instead of 8...and we see how difficult it makes it for some guys (ala Mayweather going to fight de la hoya...even mayweather against cotto to be honest) to fight in those bigger gloves...2oz's seems more significant than I feel you give credit for...and like I'll mention to Minow...if I already have 12oz...I'd like to try something new...just to experiment and see if its a better fit for my style...if not...I still have 12 oz's here waiting for me although a little beat up.

@nomilk Problem with the canadian seller of ringside products is they don't have the most recent versions other than the heritage (which is 180 CAD...too much)...Those IMF's you linked to are not available in Canada, they have the version before that and that was the version that was apparently more than a step back for the IMFs

@minow Just getting worn out...I'm wondering whether its better to just get a 10oz in a better model or something or get the same model in 10oz, or you know...suggestions like this...I figured I may as well experiment and try something new instead of buying the exact same model in a 10oz...but if no better options come about...I'll probably fork out the extra 10 bucks for the RB1's or something...because like I said..they may be better than the RB2's...I won't limit myself to just one model of glove you know...there may be better ones out there for me if I took the chance to try...

Hey mixedmajik, we do have the new versions of the Ringside products as they become available to us. The Pro fight gloves we will have in at the end of February. Also the Heritage gear is priced exactly the same in $CAD as the $USD price on the Ringside website. Please feel free to PM me withany specific questions and I will do my best to help you out. Cheers - John

[maravillin]

I love my 10oz grant pro fight gloves...

[mixedmajik]

@John Thanks

@Mara <.< Well grant is launching their new website sometime this year so lucky you >:o

Back on topic for a second...are Twins gloves good gloves for boxing?? Or are they for Muay Thai guys? I've seen them online and the price is comparable to Rival...I'm starting to become less sold on the RB1's and more tempted to try a brand outside of rival just to see what else is really out there (but don't be surprised if at the end of the day I run backtrack to rival xD)...that microfiber thing is also bothering me still for rival...I don't know why they don't like using leather like everyone else for their gloves above the RB2's that I have...big reason I've stopped at RB2 is because thats their last real all leather glove i believe...

[bubkusjones]

Originally Posted by mixedmajik

@bubkus Not really a fan of no real thumb compartment of gloves and they dont have 10oz sizes available (at the time that I clicked the link)...curious as to the second half of your post though...it seems that 2oz's does make a difference doesn't it...because by your logic heavyweights shouldn't bother using 10oz and should just use 8 like they used to in the old days...and by the same logic it would make no difference if lightweights fought with 10oz gloves instead of 8...and we see how difficult it makes it for some guys (ala Mayweather going to fight de la hoya...even mayweather against cotto to be honest) to fight in those bigger gloves...2oz's seems more significant than I feel you give credit for...and like I'll mention to Minow...if I already have 12oz...I'd like to try something new...just to experiment and see if its a better fit for my style...if not...I still have 12 oz's here waiting for me although a little beat up.

The open thumb was one of the selling points for me, as they allow you to make a proper fist as opposed to having your thumbs at the side just hanging out there.

For fight gloves, yeah, they can make a difference. On the bags, though? I don't think it's as big of an issue, in my admittedly limited experience. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's my opinion.

As for why some are adopting leather substitutes? Perhaps for customers who have moral issue with using animal products (Vegetarians, Vegans, etc.). Maybe to see if there is a superior material out there, or something more cost effective without sacrificing performance. I don't know.

That's one thing that got me, what do vegan fighters like Jake Shields or Mac Danzig do with the overall lack of high-quality synthetic/"ethical" equipment? What do they do about fight night, where leather gloves are required?

[mixedmajik]

Thats a good point...but you must realize some vegans are on it for the diet, not the animals ala tim bradley...

And i think if youre going to do non leather gloves...at least make a leather version or something...it might cost more to do but i think this might net you more customers...all this science into man made gloves just has me a little on edge...but then again like you said if a company like rival sets themselves apart as finding the next generation of gloves by striking gold...pros start wearing them etc...then I'm the one who looks stupid in the end..

But still... -.- makes me have to look elsewhere because of my lack of faith in the concept...not much elsewhere to look though it seems -.-

Also for the note on thumb free gloves...i think its just preference..for me the thumb free gloves ive tried make me very conscious and tentative when striking and throwing combos...when its not sealed im constantly thinking about it...when its covered i just go for it lol

Any reviews for these around? Can't tell if they were built for muay thai or boxing either...pretty customizable colours...i searched the glove name and sherdog review on google and got nothing though...they probably go by a different name around here because they seem like a pretty common glove...as I said...i'm in it for the 10 oz babies with my ongoing search...

http://shop.twinsspecial.com/Twins-S...eup_p_295.html

[Minowafanatic]

You see Twins lace-ups hung up at the Wild Card gym which are Western style gloves in that the weight is distributed more evenly and onto the wrist. Manny Pacquiao used to train in Twins velcro gloves even after becoming a world champion before switching to Winning. Twins standard velcro model are more of a Thai style in that there's padding on the back of the hand and less on the wrist. Plenty of Thai brands have gloves which offer good wrist support anyway e.g. Windy Prolines, Boon and are more of what we'd consider a Western style.

The whole "Thai" vs. "Boxing" gloves thing is overplayed. Twins make good quality equipment for the price and they're definitely one of the best options for what you're looking for.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f67...eview-1397821/
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f67...-pics-2249585/

Pro fight gloves in general don't last as well as training gloves. The Safetecs seem like they have very soft leather and padding so again using them primarily for bagwork it seems that unless you're willing to replace your gloves every few months then they might not be your best option.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f16...loves-2120917/