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Old 01-25-2013, 12:52 PM   #11
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No! It's tougher to get his knee pinned all to way to the ground, but the technique still works.

I find it it often tough to get my head out of the triangle until my opponent gives up on it, though. For me this usually ends up as a shitty stalemate position where I'm being half choked, but at least I don't have to tap out.
Hahaha... I know this position well (being half choked). Like you mentioned, sometimes you're just going to survive with this, ride it out, and the guy will let go (or time will expire). Not pretty, but extremely effective.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:31 AM   #12
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Andre Galvao showed us one at a seminar, you put your ear to your shoulder and your chin to your chest, grip the pants on the far side (using your forearm/elbow to frame)
and get to your feet and shuck and pull your head back and walk/hop backwards to free your head with your bum in the air to keep the biggest gap and use gravity

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Old 01-27-2013, 12:38 AM   #13
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That's pretty slick gonna try it out tonight
Did this escape work out for you? Did it at least take longer to tap?

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Old 01-27-2013, 08:34 AM   #14
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Thanks for posting! I've never seen an actual instructional on it, but picked it up from Hall's instructional on how to counter a move that nobody I know of actually uses. I use this a lot now - which unfortunately says plenty about how much I get stuck in triangles.

I manage it often enough that most of my training partners will start switching to an armbar as soon as I start turning.

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That's the escape that Ryan Hall talks about on his Triangle DVD where he spent nights thinking about how to stop it when "some guy" escaped his triangle at a US Grappling tournament with this exact same move.
A small tip I've found useful in the instances where it turns into a prolonged struggle where the guy will often go for the arm, is to keep the hand closest to your opponent under the far arm when clasping the knee.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:10 AM   #15
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So does this move only work in gi?
With gi that the triangle is most deadly due to friction, when no-gi, I can use slide out due to all the sweating acting as a lub.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:21 AM   #16
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Hahaha... I know this position well (being half choked). Like you mentioned, sometimes you're just going to survive with this, ride it out, and the guy will let go (or time will expire). Not pretty, but extremely effective.
ive been doing this escape with some success, most of the times, unless im much bigger stronger than my opponent, I have to just chill there hoping for them to gass out (this happens A LOT since im pretty light) problem start when they follow you down, when someone does this to me, I still try go under him, adjusting my position and getting a correct angle... this way, I can still choke him out no prob...

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:35 AM   #17
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This triangle escape has served me well over the years, constantly being refined to give me gradually less and less cauliflower ear. When all else fails, this escape may get you out of a triangle choke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8gi2JdT-lg

Hope you guys enjoy the video!
I love this escape- thanks for posting the video.

One quick question, I noticed you (and Ryan Hall's video) teaches staying on your knees as you drive forward. Do you find this is better than being only on your toes (sprawling), and pushing more of your weight into your opponent (without having any of your weight dispersed into the ground through your knees)?

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:35 AM   #18
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One of my favorite triangle espace. You have to be careful though. Good guys can mount you if you dont do it properly and you also put you arm in danger for an armbar.

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Old 01-27-2013, 12:02 PM   #19
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I love this escape- thanks for posting the video.

One quick question, I noticed you (and Ryan Hall's video) teaches staying on your knees as you drive forward. Do you find this is better than being only on your toes (sprawling), and pushing more of your weight into your opponent (without having any of your weight dispersed into the ground through your knees)?
Kon (or KY as I like to call you), I do find this to be the case. Let me respond a little while in depth when I get to a PC.

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Old 01-27-2013, 12:04 PM   #20
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One of my favorite triangle espace. You have to be careful though. Good guys can mount you if you dont do it properly and you also put you arm in danger for an armbar.
100% accurate. Unless you're just working on getting better at this escape, this is truly last ditch.

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