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Old 01-19-2013, 01:34 PM   #1
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Fighting to defend the take down vs letting it happen?

Kinda an odd question I have been throwing around in my mind for awhile. Say you are facing a really good wrestler and you are more comfortable on the feet (and maybe have a decent bottom game).

Would it be wiser to prepare your standup around defending the takedown (and possibly limiting your other striking elements) and fighting off the takedown at all costs (and getting tired), or strike like usual and let the takedown happen?

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Old 01-19-2013, 01:43 PM   #2
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well at no point would you just let the takedown happen for free.. but sometimes i agree it's not a bad idea to just focus on throwing a big knee or uppercut instead of sprawling if you think you can get back up / sweep post takedown

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Old 01-19-2013, 01:49 PM   #3
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Takedown = mucho points in the eyes of American judging.

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Old 01-19-2013, 02:01 PM   #4
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Anderson Silva and KJ Noons like to throw knees as opposed to sprawling or grabbing for the underhook from time to time.

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Old 01-19-2013, 02:05 PM   #5
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Kinda an odd question I have been throwing around in my mind for awhile. Say you are facing a really good wrestler and you are more comfortable on the feet (and maybe have a decent bottom game).

Would it be wiser to prepare your standup around defending the takedown (and possibly limiting your other striking elements) and fighting off the takedown at all costs (and getting tired), or strike like usual and let the takedown happen?
In my mind one of the biggest misconceptions about jiu-jitsu by people who don't practice it and even people who do is people assuming that the guard is an attacking position and a position that you would strategically select (bad idea)--yes, you can attack from your back and perhaps submit or sweep, however guard is certainly a defensive position, and in my mind a last line of defense at that when you don't have a choice--it is always better to be on top, ALWAYS, and being underneath someone is generally a bad idea. The position is called the guard for a reason, because it is to guard yourself when being overpowered by a bigger or stronger opponent.

The guard exists because sometimes you don't have a choice and you end up on your back, but letting someone put you there in hopes that you are going to "catch" them with something is a poor strategy in any other situation beyond a jiu jitsu tournament--in real life you'd be playing guard off the concrete, not to mention that being stuck underneath someone when his buddy steps up to kick your face in is a bad thing as well-- in mma being on bottom creates the perception that you are not dictating the terms of the fight, and so you are losing points every time you allow a takedown, not to mention that one mistake of posture or hand control can get your head bounced off the canvas.

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Old 01-23-2013, 03:10 PM   #6
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If my opponent is much stronger than me I fight the takedown with all I've got because I don't want to get pounded through the mat on my back. If I can't keep up with his speed, and our strength is at least close, I try to bait them into a takedown that I'm prepared to counter. Just giving up ANY takedown attempt is dangerous tho. One of my losses started with me giving up a takedown I shouldn't have.

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Old 01-25-2013, 01:18 PM   #7
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I'm going to give you some advice: if you want to learn to defend takedowns, then learn how to do takedowns. Spend a lot of time working on your takedowns to the point that you actually develop an aptitude for taking people down. Then your takedown defense will be sharp.

Don't ever let anyone take you down in a fight. That's the worst gameplan ever.

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Old 01-26-2013, 04:03 PM   #8
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It depends on your scrambling ability. If your good at getting back to your feet then I say let it happen, but if not then fight the safe fight.

EDIT: I don't actually mean let it happen, but don't be scared of getting taken down. Try to make him pay for trying to take you down even if he ends up getting it.

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