Any point in watching alkalinity?

[TMMAray]

Originally Posted by hardheart

You realize Table Salt, which is typically iodized, is not the same as uniodized sea salt? Right? Table Salt is not NaCl, usually it's I2NaCL. Sea Salt, is purified NaCl, typically.

You are extremely mistaken as to the amount of iodine in iodized salt. If table salt were I2NaCl, it would be quite toxic. I'm not sure who told you that's the composition of table salt, but they're completely wrong.

Whether it's sea salt or table salt, they are both around 98-99% NaCl, meaning that they are, for all purposes relating to acid-base balance in your body, identical.

[hardheart]

Originally Posted by TMMAray

You are extremely mistaken as to the amount of iodine in iodized salt. If table salt were I2NaCl, it would be quite toxic. I'm not sure who told you that's the composition of table salt, but they're completely wrong.

Whether it's sea salt or table salt, they are both around 98-99% NaCl, meaning that they are, for all purposes relating to acid-base balance in your body, identical.

You're correct, it would be KINaCl, I spoke to quickly. And I'm not so sure that table salt is 99% NaCl. Sounds like a stat you pulled out of your ass and can't back up for shit.

[TMMAray]

Originally Posted by hardheart

You're correct, it would be KINaCl, I spoke to quickly. And I'm not so sure that table salt is 99% NaCl. Sounds like a stat you pulled out of your ass and can't back up for shit.

...and you're still missing the point that it would be about 1000 parts NaCl to each 1 part KI.

Also, google "composition of salt" and find any source that suggests that any kind of NaCl based salt isn't composed of approximately that much NaCl, with negligible (from a standpoint of chemical reactions) amount of everything else.

[hardheart]

Originally Posted by TMMAray

...and you're still missing the point that it would be about 1000 parts NaCl to each 1 part KI.

Also, google "composition of salt" and find any source that suggests that any kind of NaCl based salt isn't composed of approximately that much NaCl, with negligible (from a standpoint of chemical reactions) amount of everything else.

What I find is this is true after its purification and before it is iodized. I find nothing about table salt containing iodine, however. So, it's the same elementary bullshit we feed our children - the actual fact that table salt and sea salt are not the same fucking thing.

Long story short, Table Salt contains Iodine (and potassium), sea salt, does not. This at the core is a fact that any reasonable person could use to distinguish the two on a chemical and nutritional level.

[TMMAray]

Again, it distinguishes them from a nutritional standpoint, because your daily needs of iodine are in micrograms. Using the table salt from my cupboard, we get this per 1.5g serving:

Sodium: 590 milligrams
Iodine: 45% RDA, which equals 67.5 micrograms

So by weight, there's 8740 parts sodium per 1 part iodine
NaCl is approximately 39.7% sodium by weight, so there's about 22,000 parts NaCl per 1 part Iodine.

...and since iodine's atomic mass is greater than the mass of an NaCl molecule, if we compare them from a molar standpoint, which is what really matters when we're discussing acidity/alkalinity, it's even more lopsided. (about 48,000 times NaCl to I)

The point here is that when something has about 48,000 NaCl molecules for every 1 of iodine, the iodine is not chemically significant when talking about its effect on the pH of a solution that it's being added to. The anti-caking agents in table salt, and the very small amounts of assorted calcium, magnesium, etc. salts in sea salt would both have a much more substantial effect on the chemical reactivity of the substance.

Point being, an extremely small amount of iodine is needed in your diet. A deficiency or excess of it can be very bad for you. However, as it pertains to pH, 100 or so micrograms of any substance is simply not enough to significantly affect the human body.

[hardheart]

Originally Posted by TMMAray

Again, it distinguishes them from a nutritional standpoint, because your daily needs of iodine are in micrograms. Using the table salt from my cupboard, we get this per 1.5g serving:

Sodium: 590 milligrams
Iodine: 45% RDA, which equals 67.5 micrograms

So by weight, there's 8740 parts sodium per 1 part iodine
NaCl is approximately 39.7% sodium by weight, so there's about 22,000 parts NaCl per 1 part Iodine.

...and since iodine's atomic mass is greater than the mass of an NaCl molecule, if we compare them from a molar standpoint, which is what really matters when we're discussing acidity/alkalinity, it's even more lopsided. (about 48,000 times NaCl to I)

The point here is that when something has about 48,000 NaCl molecules for every 1 of iodine, the iodine is not chemically significant when talking about its effect on the pH of a solution that it's being added to. The anti-caking agents in table salt, and the very small amounts of assorted calcium, magnesium, etc. salts in sea salt would both have a much more substantial effect on the chemical reactivity of the substance.

Point being, an extremely small amount of iodine is needed in your diet. A deficiency or excess of it can be very bad for you. However, as it pertains to pH, 100 or so micrograms of any substance is simply not enough to significantly affect the human body.

Did you just go through the pains of "proving" that iodine in table salt is negligible from a chemical standpoint as it relates to ph, or your body's ph reaction to it, to immediately contradicting your own point?

My original point stands: there are legitimate reasons why someone drawing up a diet would be ok with sea-salt and not ok with table salt. You...seem to have agreed and disagreed with this point throughout your postings.

[TMMAray]

You can certainly have reasons to choose sea salt over table salt.

That's completely separate from the fact that saying sea salt is "highly alkalizing" and table salt is "highly acidic" is patently false.

That is the only argument I've made. Regarding effect on your body's pH, the two are effectively identical.

In what way did I ever contradict myself about that?

Edit, actually re-reading it, I assume you're referring to my statement about anti-caking agents and such being more significant. That was not meant to imply that they effectively change the salts' effect on your body's pH, just that there is much, much more of them than iodine, and if anything were to have an effect on the chemistry of the salt, it would be them. That having been said, they are not going to have a significant difference on your body's pH, let alone enough for one to be in the "most acidic" category, and the other in the "most alkaline" category.

[nemosson]

I can't speak of the science of things, but I can tell you that when I"m starting to overtrain or get exhausted all the time, I can feel my body is acidic. Apples, bananas, onions and garlic help.

[TMMAray]

Explain exactly how you can "feel" that your body is acidic.

Not to split hairs, but if your body were acidic (pH below 7) you would either be dead, or very close to it, but I know you meant "the pH is lower than it should be."

[nemosson]

Originally Posted by TMMAray

Explain exactly how you can "feel" that your body is acidic.

Not to split hairs, but if your body were acidic (pH below 7) you would either be dead, or very close to it, but I know you meant "the pH is lower than it should be."

I can't sleep well, wake up tired, have aches and pains, and am def more irritable. Yeah I did say I can't speak of the science of things, but you get it!