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Old 01-23-2013, 11:03 PM   #1
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Creative Boxing Footwork by Anderson Silva

This clip is old and I've seen it a few times but I just noticed something cool from about the 4:25 - 4:34 mark. He throws that left cross, holds it out there and sort of throws another double tap to keep that guys guard up, while at the same time taking a step forward with his left foot, and then coming back with the right cross (usually his jab hand). Then you see him run a couple of circles around this guy and throwing punches.

That cross, step, cross with the opposite hand is hard to pull off. I just tried doing it shadowboxing alone and felt quite embarrassed. He looks so fluid doing it too!

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Old 01-23-2013, 11:54 PM   #2
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:07 AM   #3
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Could actually be considered bad form by some. Leaving your rear hand out like that could get you countered. Also putting himself out of position by dragging his rear leg forward.



This is not a position you ever want to be in. Or hardly see any boxers in. It's the definition of crossing your legs.


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Old 01-24-2013, 12:12 AM   #4
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Could actually be considered bad form by some. Leaving your rear hand out like that could get you countered. Also putting himself out of position by dragging his rear leg forward.
then again look at guys like RJJ and prince naseem. they must drive textbook perfectionists crazy, yet they found success

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Old 01-24-2013, 12:21 AM   #5
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then again look at guys like RJJ and prince naseem. they must drive textbook perfectionists crazy, yet they found success
Yeah, that's why i said by some. It's a good way to get caught, as Naseem and Jones found out eventually.

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Old 01-24-2013, 12:35 AM   #6
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Yeah, that's why i said by some. It's a good way to get caught, as Naseem and Jones found out eventually.
true. but i think that has more to do with their reflexes slowing with age.
one of my old boxing coaches told me that when guys arent used to being hit somewhat habitually, they usually receive more damage in the future once age catches up with them and their reflexes cant save them. their chins arent as "conditioned" i guess you could say. idk how accurate this is but made sense to me.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:27 AM   #7
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Man Anderson looked out his realm a little bit. Getting caught with that jab a lot and looked akward for a lot of that. And the combo you are talking about TS looked ugly.

My opinion anyways haha

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:28 AM   #8
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silva is great but that looks relatively simple

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:47 AM   #9
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Nice find TS. It's not that hard to do if you think he is letting his rear foot come up as he falls in on his cross. It's just that he cuts an angle across his opponent and then pivots around to resquare. I often use this rear foot step up off a jab against an orthodox opponent to get to their outside.

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Could actually be considered bad form by some. Leaving your rear hand out like that could get you countered. Also putting himself out of position by dragging his rear leg forward.
I don't think so. He has first occupied his opponent who has shelled up and he steps so close to the opponent outside of their lead side there is no chance of a counter. He's really just falling in on his rear cross which we see all the time but he cuts an angle perpendicular across the opponent. So it's the perfect time to switch stances.

However this wouldn't be so good if Anderson was against an opponent with matched stances because he would be moving to the inside against a southpaw and be far more open to the rear hand.

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true. but i think that has more to do with their reflexes slowing with age.
one of my old boxing coaches told me that when guys arent used to being hit somewhat habitually, they usually receive more damage in the future once age catches up with them and their reflexes cant save them. their chins arent as "conditioned" i guess you could say. idk how accurate this is but made sense to me.
It's not so much that their chins aren't conditioned, but when a style is not rooted in fundamentals, something's got to give eventually. Whether it be a fighter with his amazing reflexes, or a brawler who gets into wars of attrition.

But with all that said, it's not a knock on Silva. I'm just nitpicking from a pure fundamental boxing standpoint. He's phenomenal, and he displays some very good boxing skills, movement and instinct, being that it's not his main discipline. It'd be no doubt that he would be a solid boxer had it been his only art. Who knows about elite, but definitely good.

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