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Old 01-22-2013, 05:03 PM   #1
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Krav School - What's your take on these videos?

Hello everyone, long time lurker here.

A relative of mine said he recently got into a local Krav Maga school so I went on youtube to check them out. I'm no martial arts expert and I just watch MMA for entertainment so I'd appreciate it if you guys could correct me on this, but these disarms, techniques and training don't look very effective do they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36XHO-5DzRo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm2tGcEn_us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xhwCk4nslY

The lack of live any contact during their training (P4 is supposed to be an experienced student I think) and the highly unrealistic proximity of the gunmen in the demonstrations make me very skeptical about the lessons.

I'd appreciate any advice. Please keep the comments logical and on-point.

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Old 01-22-2013, 05:33 PM   #2
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Maybe because your looking at basics and not the whole picture. Technique does advance.

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Old 01-23-2013, 02:33 PM   #3
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These videos are all very basic.

The first is just a demo of the choke from behind defense. Realistically if someone grabs you from behind it won't be like that, it'll be a RNC, suplex or just a bear hug type deal. The purpose is more to demonstrate how the plucking motion, which is used in the choke defenses, can be applied from any direction. That's all it is. And if someone did grab you like that, for whatever reason, the technique works.

The second is also a beginner level drill for dealing with multiple attackers. At higher levels you'll put on headgear, shin guards and grappling gloves to make the speed and intensity more realistic, but for the beginners all you're working on is footwork and peripheral vision. You're just practicing staying on the outside, keeping all your opponents in front of you, trying to stack them up so you don't have to deal with them all at once.

The third video is, again, a very simple demonstration. Everything is slowed down for observational purposes, and more importantly, there is no forward momentum in the demo. If you were really training these techniques, like the knife and gun disarms for example, you wouldn't stand in one place like they had to in the video (so people can see what's happening), you would be moving forward, driving into your attacker, to keep him from reaching back with the knife to stab again, or create space to pull the gun and point it back at you. In other words, if the camera didn't move, you would drive them back and off camera. There's a lot that goes into these techniques that you can't see in these videos.

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The lack of live any contact during their training (P4 is supposed to be an experienced student I think) and the highly unrealistic proximity of the gunmen in the demonstrations make me very skeptical about the lessons.

I'd appreciate any advice. Please keep the comments logical and on-point.
There is full contact sparring in Krav Maga, although because there are other self defense techniques and strategies to learn, less time is spent on sparring.

As for the proximity of the gunman, how is that "highly unrealistic"? People get held up at gunpoint at a range where they could reach out and touch the gun all the time. I'm really confused as to how you came to this conclusion.

Sure, a trained shooter wouldn't get that close to you if he could avoid it, but the people out there holding people up at gun point aren't exactly trained in proper weapon tactics are they?


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