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Old 01-21-2013, 12:19 PM   #61
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You know what always struck me odd about Mayweather vs Mosley? Is that when Mosley tried the glove touch thing and Floyd smacked him, emanuel steward said something along the lines of "Good, he should. This is a fight." But when he did the same thing and knocked out Ortiz, he was disgusted to the point of speechlessness. I think maybe Emanuel dropped some cash on Ortiz that night.
Well the difference is that Ortiz got KO'd thus pretty much wasting everyone's money.

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Old 01-21-2013, 12:39 PM   #62
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This is a good example of why Floyd fans are a pain in the ass to debate with. Take it easy guy, nobody is discrediting your God. Everyone knows Floyd has power, but he isn't exactly known as a KO artist at welterweight. He certainly held that distinction at 130, but not all his power has followed him. Knocking out Victor Ortiz who was looking away with his hands down thinking they were still in time out doesn't count to me. Sorry. Guererro has shown that he can take a serious shot (a lot of them) from a big welterweight who hits MUCH harder than Floyd does. I couldn't believe Guererro was taking those uppercuts from Berto and kept coming.

THAT'S what I based my assumption on. Not some perceived bias you're complaining about. I don't like Mayweather, but you'll never see me discredit his skill in the ring. That's a distinction you don't seem to understand very well. You take it too personally when someone even remotely questions Floyd's perfection.



I just said, a few posts ago, that I believe Bradley is a very good fighter. It wouldn't hurt to read through the thread before you post. K?

Great post....no one in this thread, or any other thread has a regular (non troll account) Pac fan attempted to diminish PBF's career or "hate Bradley."

Bradley is a great fighter and PBF is an all time great. Saying "I don't think PBF will stop Guererro" is not "hating on" or shitting on Floyd's record or his career. Guerrero can take a vicious shot, as we saw with his fight against Berto.

Do I see Guerrero posing problems for Floyd? Yes.
Do I see Guerrero winning? Absolutely not.

As you said earlier, PBF fans are some of the most hyper sensitive of the sport. They are boxing's "Nate/Nick Diaz fans."

1) Often misconstrue simple observations as grave insults against their hero
2) Usually exaggerate their capabilities and strengths of their favorite fighter.
3) Often misinformed of facts.

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Old 01-21-2013, 12:57 PM   #63
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Great post....no one in this thread, or any other thread has a regular (non troll account) Pac fan attempted to diminish PBF's career or "hate Bradley."

Bradley is a great fighter and PBF is an all time great. Saying "I don't think PBF will stop Guererro" is not "hating on" or shitting on Floyd's record or his career. Guerrero can take a vicious shot, as we saw with his fight against Berto.

Do I see Guerrero posing problems for Floyd? Yes.
Do I see Guerrero winning? Absolutely not.

As you said earlier, PBF fans are some of the most hyper sensitive of the sport. They are boxing's "Nate/Nick Diaz fans."

1) Often misconstrue simple observations as grave insults against their hero
2) Usually exaggerate their capabilities and strengths of their favorite fighter.
3) Often misinformed of facts.
http://www.boxingscene.com/argument-...-murder--52735

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Old 01-21-2013, 01:02 PM   #64
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are you fucking kidding me?

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Old 01-21-2013, 01:03 PM   #65
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are you fucking kidding me?
I remember that. What. The. Hell.

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Old 01-21-2013, 01:33 PM   #66
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Great post....no one in this thread, or any other thread has a regular (non troll account) Pac fan attempted to diminish PBF's career or "hate Bradley."

Bradley is a great fighter and PBF is an all time great. Saying "I don't think PBF will stop Guererro" is not "hating on" or shitting on Floyd's record or his career. Guerrero can take a vicious shot, as we saw with his fight against Berto.

Do I see Guerrero posing problems for Floyd? Yes.
Do I see Guerrero winning? Absolutely not.

As you said earlier, PBF fans are some of the most hyper sensitive of the sport. They are boxing's "Nate/Nick Diaz fans."

1) Often misconstrue simple observations as grave insults against their hero
2) Usually exaggerate their capabilities and strengths of their favorite fighter.
3) Often misinformed of facts.
I never said anyone was "hating" on Floyd. I just pointed out that the specific posters make it a point to never give him and due credit

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Old 01-21-2013, 02:22 PM   #67
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You know what always struck me odd about Mayweather vs Mosley? Is that when Mosley tried the glove touch thing and Floyd smacked him, emanuel steward said something along the lines of "Good, he should. This is a fight." But when he did the same thing and knocked out Ortiz, he was disgusted to the point of speechlessness. I think maybe Emanuel dropped some cash on Ortiz that night.
To be fair the commentators had no idea what was going on, they definitely didn't see or hear Cortez signal the fight back on.

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Bradley Gamboa would be awful at 147. He has fought once at 130.
Bingo....

It would be ridiculous for Gamboa to move up three weight classes.

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I hope 50 thinks this one through. He has a mans career in his hands. Moving him up three weight classes would be bush league stuff.

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Bradley would dominate Gamboa anyway, without the size difference. He's got a much better skill set and a much better boxing IQ.

Timmy is one of the best fighters in the world, and a victory over him would be great for Floyd's legacy.

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