Why is it so many Judo guys are such heavy handed brawlers?

[MindOverMuscle]

Originally Posted by Te Huna Matata

I have been saying this for 8 years now (since I got into MMA). Judo is to wrestling as TKD is to Muay Thai. The sooner people realize this, the happier they will be. Ultimately, they resort to brawling because their grappling is pretty mediocre.

It's not about the martial art they practice, it's about the skills they possess which make the fighter. And as evidence from the fight, Chandler is the better fighter period. There are many guys with Judo backrounds who do well in MMA. However I will say that the mindset of a wrestler, seems to be stronger than that of a typical Judoka. It seems that they have a stronger will to win.

[SharkBoy]

Originally Posted by loller90278

Fedor was a sambo guy buddy

judo too buddy

[Onq]

Throwing people with your grips and hips only + plus perfection of foot placement

[Shin_Akuma]

Originally Posted by Te Huna Matata

I have been saying this for 8 years now (since I got into MMA). Judo is to wrestling as TKD is to Muay Thai. The sooner people realize this, the happier they will be. Ultimately, they resort to brawling because their grappling is pretty mediocre.

First of all, Judo gave birth to both BJJ and Sambo. All three are modern martial arts with plenty of quality representation in MMA, including multiple high-level champions. Purely on an empirical basis, you're claim is retarded.

Secondly, sport Judo is gi grappling. Western wrestling is no-gi grappling. MMA is no-gi. Obviously, one is more naturally suited to MMA than the other. And Judoka who don't train no-gi (almost all of them) are obviously going to limit their capabilities. When judoka come out of a no-gi judo gym (Gene Lebell & Gokor) like Ronda Rousey, Manvel, Karo, etc., they are fully capable of grapple-fucking their opponents.

[Shin_Akuma]

Lots of greco guys have lots of natural power too. I think an argument for upper-body wrestling has merit.

[Intermedius]

Originally Posted by MJ1432

I was just listening to Rick Hawn's introduction on Spike, and they were talking about how, in spite of his Olympic level Judo background, he's mostly a super heavy handed brawler, and tends to win most of his fights with big punches. And it got me thinking about some of the other best Judo Olympian turned MMA dudes, and how they all tend to be that way. Lombard's mostly a stand up monster who uses his Judo for TDD, Sexiyama was basically the same thing, it's strange, all the best Judo to MMA guys fight like heavy handed brawlers with great TDD (Rhonda not included, but she's not a guy, women's game tends to be different). Does anyone have any idea why that is, or why they all seem to have such heavy hands?

Add Sokoudjou to that list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokoudjou.

[GoTTi]

Probably because of the hips.