Pro Wrestling Discussion 73

[FearneCotton]

Originally Posted by tankfan

again wwe piss me off by WASTEING Drew Macintyre Jindar Mahal and Heath Slater. none of them deserve to be jobers

Yeah they do...that's the whole point of the group. They are the job squad 2.0 who gets airtime

[Fonx]

Originally Posted by FearneCotton

WWE wants you to like who they want you to like.

Thats why I roll my eyes everytime the Rock does his shtick of "listen to the people, the people have a voice".

One of the best promos of Punk was when Triple H was implying they didn´t push him before because he wasn´t over and Punk said "really? because at SS 2006 it was DX, the Hardys and me in the ring and people were chanting CM Punk".

[Gregolian]

Originally Posted by Smigg

Perhaps he asked for his release, there's only so many times a guy who was on the main roster can be jobbed out on NXT.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Yoshi Tatsu go next, that guy was over as fuck, and they buried him. Now, he's not just jobbing on NXT, he's being jobbed in a makeshift tag team on NXT.

It's ridiculous, this is the thinnest the WWE roster has been in a long time, and they're not using guys, and they're firing guys, especially in the run up to the Rumble and WrestleMania.

There's currently FORTY, active full time male wrestlers who aren't injured and are appearing on TV in some form or another, that's a pretty thin roster, especially when they're just willingly leaving guys off TV (Swagger, Ezekiel, Mason Ryan, Johnny Curtis, Alex Riley, Ted DiBiase among others).

This really REALLY shows in their video game honestly. Seriously, it feels like 3/4 of the 100 person roster is old Attitude Era guys with like 4 versions of Mick Foley, 3 of Lita, and like 2 of Edge, 2 of Rock (the warm up suit and then the ring gear look), and a couple other things like this.

Meanwhile, of current superstars guys like Ryback weren't even there at release unless it was as DLC.

[Gregolian]

Love how easily D-Von says shut up bitch.

[FearneCotton]

Originally Posted by Fonx

Thats why I roll my eyes everytime the Rock does his shtick of "listen to the people, the people have a voice".

One of the best promos of Punk was when Triple H was implying they didn´t push him before because he wasn´t over and Punk said "really? because at SS 2006 it was DX, the Hardys and me in the ring and people were chanting CM Punk".

Punk also went on to have 3 world title runs before his rant about not being used. There is a difference between never having the opportunity to shine and getting that opportunity and failing at it.

[Its Me Austin]

Wasn't McIntyre Vince's chosen one a few years ago?

[Gregolian]

Yes he was McMahon's chosen one which is why the distance he has "fallen" makes no sense.


And I don't need a wedding storyline TNA. Goddamn.

Sting's face is lols though, this blank "um... am I... I guess I am"

[Smigg]

Originally Posted by FearneCotton

WWE wants you to like who they want you to like.

That's Vince for you, he thinks "I made Hulk Hogan, I made Bret Hart, I made Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, The Rock... Dammit, this is what you want!"

Then, when people say "No Vince, we want this". He buries them, jobs them out, takes them off TV and then he says "So, do you want him now?!" And there's another potential star, and millions of Dollars flushed away because that's not what Vince tells you to want.

Case in point, look at Zack Ryder, the guy got himself over, when he's not on the show, people chant "We Want Ryder", when he's on the show, people love him, he shifts a shit tonne of merch, yet Vince isn't happy.

I think that's why I think HHH/Steph will be much better for business than Vince at this point. HHH is no longer on the show, so he's not gonna be cutting the legs out of guys like he did with RVD and others, and, when you listen to former creative team members, even though Steph does produce some suck ass stuff, she fights really hard for the good stuff and Vince just says "Nope".

[Gregolian]

Is this a case of the business having passed Vince by? Or a case of Vince's ego getting in the way?

[Smigg]

Vince's ego.

When he was getting his ass kicked by Bischoff and Turner, he set his ego aside, and deligated resposibility to the talent and to the bookers, and that lead to his most financially successful period ever. Then when he beat Bischoff and Turner, the ego was back and bigger than ever.