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Old 01-10-2013, 09:05 AM   #1
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The right (rear) uppercut..

How do you like to set it up?


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Old 01-10-2013, 09:18 AM   #2
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With a jab or two.

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anything special you look for before you throw it? what make you choose the uppercut after the jabs instead of a cross or a body shot?

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If my opponent dips or leans to my left side, but a bit lower than shoulder level, or if they seem to be upright and guarded against the cross, the uppercut is the correct answer.

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I like to use it when someone grabs for a clinch. It is a good shield against being grabbed. More specifically, fast double uppercut combos.

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With a jab or two.
Frode, if you go back and watch one of the vids Sinister posted doing Mit Work with Arni (training of a viking thread, I believe)........ There is an excellent example of how to use the jab to set up the UC. It's a trick that I haven't seen many guys teach, and probably the first time I have seen a mitt holder (that being Sin) have the boxer use this method to teach rear UC. I'm sure someone can find and re-post the vid. The idea demonstrated with the jab/double jab would be to fade/feint the jab outside a bit to open the opponents guard and hide the rear UC coming up in between. The rear UC is one of my favorite shots and probably one of my better punches, but it wasn't a shot I was comfortable throwing anywhere but right in close. Using this tactic makes it a much higher percentage shot at range or coming in behind the jab.

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I like to use it when someone grabs for a clinch. It is a good shield against being grabbed. More specifically, fast double uppercut combos.
One of the best examples of recent that comes to mind, watch Cotto Vs. PBF. I love how Floyd would tuck n roll underneath (particularly when Cotto was trying to smother or grab on to him) and throw that double UC or lead UC in between Cotto's guard to set up his right hand. I believe somewhere late in that fight he about sat Cotto down with a short lead UC. What so impressive is how PBF is able to get his shoulders in a position (between cottos guard) that really nullified Cottos ability to mount any offense when he did it. Excellent example of how to throw the lead UC and not be as defensively vulnerable to the right hand. PBF would just slide inside Cottos Guard, Stand him up those lead UC's and put himself into a position where Cotto could only defend, and by the time he had recovered that high guard and got back down in his stance he'd eaten a right hand behind that UC. Really a thing of beauty.

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Frode, if you go back and watch one of the vids Sinister posted doing Mit Work with Arni (training of a viking thread, I believe)........ There is an excellent example of how to use the jab to set up the UC. It's a trick that I haven't seen many guys teach, and probably the first time I have seen a mitt holder (that being Sin) have the boxer use this method to teach rear UC. I'm sure someone can find and re-post the vid. The idea demonstrated with the jab/double jab would be to fade/feint the jab outside a bit to open the opponents guard and hide the rear UC coming up in between. The rear UC is one of my favorite shots and probably one of my better punches, but it wasn't a shot I was comfortable throwing anywhere but right in close. Using this tactic makes it a much higher percentage shot at range or coming in behind the jab.
Thanks man. And thanks Sinister. I will check it out for sure. Its the punch i dont like to throw. But it all about the set ups.

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You can also set it up with a left hook or left uppercut.

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One of the best examples of recent that comes to mind, watch Cotto Vs. PBF. I love how Floyd would tuck n roll underneath (particularly when Cotto was trying to smother or grab on to him) and throw that double UC or lead UC in between Cotto's guard to set up his right hand. I believe somewhere late in that fight he about sat Cotto down with a short lead UC. What so impressive is how PBF is able to get his shoulders in a position (between cottos guard) that really nullified Cottos ability to mount any offense when he did it. Excellent example of how to throw the lead UC and not be as defensively vulnerable to the right hand. PBF would just slide inside Cottos Guard, Stand him up those lead UC's and put himself into a position where Cotto could only defend, and by the time he had recovered that high guard and got back down in his stance he'd eaten a right hand behind that UC. Really a thing of beauty.
Huh, sounds pretty interesting. Thanks for cluing me in. I'm trying to find it right now.

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