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01-10-2013, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by "Rush"
Who says the UFC will even put him on PPV? Lombard has PPV $ and was scheduled to fight on Fox. His last fight was on FX and his next one was on Fuel.
Who says a PPV fight with Alvarez on will even do the 200K that he needs to get his bonus? The last UFC LW title fight done less than 200k.
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Lot of what ifs in that post but disguised with "who says".....terrible argument on your behalf. Plus Lombard fought on a PPV and he messed up by fighting like a statue and ended up losing a controversial decision.
But anyways:
What if (who says) Eddie (does't) fights Bendo for the LW title and it's a stacked card.
What if (Who says) Lombard is(n't) fighting on those shows to gain casual fans to sell PPV's better
What if(who says) Eddie does(n't) do well and puts on exciting fights and becomes popular with UFC fans
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01-10-2013, 03:46 PM
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Agreed ts the whole thing is hilarious, and I never watched Bellator but that Bjorn guy won me over for making Dana take it up the ass and cry about it... Randy was better off fighting Fedor back in the day, anyone who is not a goldfish remember, we we also know about the infinite championship clause in the ufc contracts.
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01-10-2013, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by saminex
Do you not remember how he let Lombard go within 24 hrs of receiving the UFC's offer, once he decided he wasn't gonna try to match it?
Now he gets an offer from the UFC and he decides to match it and all of a sudden hes a scumbag and a shady promoter. So by that logic Bjorn should/can never match any UFC offers? So everytime a valuable Bellator fighter's contract expires he automatically has to let them go to the competition?
I pray none of you ever try to take your family's savings and start a business. Shertards never cease to amaze me.
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I think the bigger issue here isn't so much one side or the other is right but Bellator's place in the MMA landscape.
Now if there intentions are to be a true #2 org that fighters can go too then I say fine, play hardball do what you can to keep the best. But they haven't shown fans that is there business model. Simply put fighters like Eddie and Hector have out grown Bellator. Now it would be different if Bellator wasn't 90% concern about tournaments and was bringing in top fighters to fight there best fighters. But the truth is they just really don't know what to do with there top guys. Hell they let go there one champ cause they had nothing for him....Konrad retired cause he was doing nothing in Bellator.....Hector left for the UFC cause nothing was worth staying for in Bellator and that is what Eddie is doing.
I'm sure a guy like Chandler right now is really wondering if Bellator is the best place for him in the next year. He isn't popular enough to garnish any real big offer from the UFC. So in Bellator can he really reach his potential and get the recognition that top LW's do or is he gonna be looked at as only if he fought the best guys??
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Last edited by skylolow; 01-10-2013 at 04:29 PM.
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01-10-2013, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by "Rush"
Who says the UFC will even put him on PPV? Lombard has PPV $ and was scheduled to fight on Fox. His last fight was on FX and his next one is on Fuel.
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Well for starters, Lombard did get on pay per view so he obviously got his bonus. The argument that Lombard "might not have gotten" his bonus is silly because at the end of the day, he appeared on PPV and got it.
Also Lombard, like Alvarez, had/has a guaranteed FOX fight written into the contract. This is because fighters who get on FOX make insane money for that one fight, something Bellator, on a smaller channel like Spike, can't fiscally match up with.
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Who says a PPV fight with Alvarez on will even do the 200K that he needs to get his bonus? The last UFC LW title fight done less than 200k.
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Two UFC PPVs in the last...like 5 years has done under 200,000 buys. I doubt it's of concern to Alvarez.
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01-10-2013, 03:51 PM
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Didn't Rebney say it was all good for Alvarez to go to the UFC until DW said something about Bellator's matching offer contracts. This just seems kind if spiteful and it sucks that Alvarez has to either accept Bellator's deal or wait out a period of time, a year I read somewhere. Now he's being sued by Bellator.
http://mma-freak.com/eddie-alvarez-b...s-offer-suing/
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01-10-2013, 03:54 PM
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I like the dude and wouldn't call him a scumbag but he put out a lawsuit against Alvarez and he didn't even match ufc's offer. Not exactly a saint move.
UFC - 70k/70k + 250k sign on bonus + three commentary opportunities + at least $1 per ppv
Bellator - 70k/70k + 100k for a show on spike + 25k
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01-10-2013, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SplitDecisions
The likelihood of Alvarez getting a PPV cut are very very slim. Do you know who got PPV cut from the UFC? Jon Jones, GSP, Anderson, MOST the other champs..... and a select HANDFUL of fighters ...
The ufc is PROMISING PPV chance, that isn't good enough. It is like a bonus , but has less than 20 percent chance of occuring.
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If its in your contract you get it for Main Event fights on PPV. Some fighters get it for co-main event but I understand this is very few fighters.
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01-10-2013, 03:56 PM
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I really want to see Alvarez in the UFC,
but Bjorn is just protecting his business interests
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01-10-2013, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mag5585
No they said they would look into it, there is no guarantee Bellator does their first PPV this year.
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No guarantee, but in his interview with Sherdog he said he would ppv the Chandler Alvarez rematch.
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01-10-2013, 03:59 PM
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TS is right. The business is all about the talent you have signed. You don't let your talent walk to the competition.
Remember when the UFC were scumbags for not letting Randy walk?
I own several businesses and I'm on team whoever holds the contract.
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