Bellator Sues Eddie Alvarez

[aker2703]

Originally Posted by bubkusjones

He's lost once in four years, in a back-and-forth fight that he came close to finishing himself at least once. He's lost twice in 6 years, the above fight, and to Aoki (whom he's since beaten).

Yeah, he's been "exposed" alright.

cmon man, you know how it seems to be with a lot of mma fans, lose one fight and you suck. long term memory does not seem to exist in some posters.

[CDF47]

I hope this shit gets resolved quick. I hope this doesn't get dragged out forever.

[cooks1]

Originally Posted by skylolow

It's hard to say......at the time they said 40-50% in that interview it was before the Fox deal. As fans we look at what does fighter "x" make.....Zuffa looks at as we spend this much on the company side and this much on fighter side. Fighter side is everything from travel cost, hotels, fighter insurance, salaries, all kinds of bonuses, PPV buy money, etc. etc. etc.. They have a lot of cost associated to the fighters that they may include and as fans we may not.

I do believe on the event side that quite often 40-50% of profit is going to the fighters of the one event more often then not.

It's nowhere near that. It's less than 25%. Probably way less.

A 500K PPV buy is 25 Million. Before Gate. Before sponsors. Before concessions. Before the fucking video game. Before before before. So you would need a fighter payroll of $12.5 million minimum for that fight to be even close to 50%, and $10 million to be close to 40%. No chance.

[Radical]

Originally Posted by cooks1

It's nowhere near that. It's less than 25%. Probably way less.

A 500K PPV buy is 25 Million. Before Gate. Before sponsors. Before concessions. Before the fucking video game. Before before before. So you would need a fighter payroll of $12.5 million minimum for that fight to be even close to 50%, and $10 million to be close to 40%. No chance.

two words

Backhouse bonuses

[cooks1]

Originally Posted by Radical

two words

Backhouse bonuses

2 words for you: Get the Fuck out of here with that idiotic shit.

Backhouse bonuses my balls. Do you have any idea how large the 'backhouse bonuses' would have to be to get to even 40% of revenue. Pull out a fucking calculator for Christ sakes.

UFC 152 did about 450K PPV Buys. So That's 22 Million right there. Again, before gate, sponsors and the rest of it. 40% of $22 Million is $8.8 Million

TOTAL disclosed payroll for UFC 152 (Including Win Bonuses, FOTN, KO/Sub bonuses etc): $1.8 Million. Throw in another couple million in PPV dosh for the main eventers, and that MAYBE gets you to $3.8 Million.

Even if the 'backhouse bonuses' were the same as the total gate of 1.8 Million (which includes all the Win KO/sub bonuses etc.) that still takes the total fighter payout to about $5.8 Million. Which would be just over 25% of the PPV revenue.

[nosaj73]

The UFC(or WWE or whoever is running a boxing card) does not get all of the money from the PPV. Depending on the deal, up to half of the money can go to the cable\dish\PPV provider. It's the cable\dish companies technology that allows others to show a PPV and the cable\dish company are the ones who actually collects the money from the customer.

[CC27]

Originally Posted by cooks1

It's nowhere near that. It's less than 25%. Probably way less.

A 500K PPV buy is 25 Million. Before Gate. Before sponsors. Before concessions. Before the fucking video game. Before before before. So you would need a fighter payroll of $12.5 million minimum for that fight to be even close to 50%, and $10 million to be close to 40%. No chance.

Someone doesnt know the cable carries take half the money so that 25 mill gets cut in half, factor in the set up for the event, the promotion, countdowns, commercials, ads etc. You dont seem to be factoring in alot of things.

[cooks1]

Originally Posted by CC27

Someone doesnt know the cable carries take half the money so that 25 mill gets cut in half, factor in the set up for the event, the promotion, countdowns, commercials, ads etc. You dont seem to be factoring in alot of things.

I am sure there are substantial COSTS in the running of PPV's that eat up a bunch of the REVENUE.

But if you say your fighter payroll is half of the REVENUE, you don't get to take out your costs.

[skylolow]

Originally Posted by cooks1

It's nowhere near that. It's less than 25%. Probably way less.

A 500K PPV buy is 25 Million. Before Gate. Before sponsors. Before concessions. Before the fucking video game. Before before before. So you would need a fighter payroll of $12.5 million minimum for that fight to be even close to 50%, and $10 million to be close to 40%. No chance.

UFC doesn't get your full $50. They get about $28 or so give or take a dollar.

So your math is off by a mile.

[cooks1]

Originally Posted by skylolow

UFC doesn't get your full $50. They get about $28 or so give or take a dollar.

So your math is off by a mile.

No. Your understanding of what revenues and costs are is what needs help.