If its the first one, then I don't know. It seems like it would take power away from your hooks. It seems like it would be useful if you were to be an aggressive fighter that is always going forward I guess.
If its the second one, then thats normal.
I tend to keep my feet like the guy on the right below
My trainer makes me do it im used to it now i see other people that dont have there foot out at all and i feel like im doing it wrong but i am a aggresive fighter and it helps me explode forward with my jab which then puts me in the inside so it works most of the time and it actually helps my hook because it makes me get set to throw the hook instead of just throwing it since the position of the feet are forward it would be wierd throwing it and now thanks to getting set for the hook all the time my left hook is my strongest and only strong punch lol. So its not bad but it depends what kind of fighter you are
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If its the first one, then I don't know. It seems like it would take power away from your hooks. It seems like it would be useful if you were to be an aggressive fighter that is always going forward I guess.
If its the second one, then thats normal.
I like the first one better. When my coach was holding the pads he had me turn my back foot forward (not straighten the leg out, but simply rotate the rear foot till it pointed mostly forward). Because I was keeping my foot like in example #2 at first.
The result was I hit the pads about 3 times harder with less effort. It really puts the torque into your shots, and I just don't see any drawbacks except the initial awkward feeling (that you soon get used to)
Watch this @ 1:21-137:
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See the difference? It worked for Urijah Faber
Now if you need to hook, you have to load your hook up beforehand anyway, right? So (when you're loading, usually off another punch) that's when you move your toe out prior so you can pivot it back in on the hook.
Also, if your back foot points more forward, it tends to keep your feet from crossing when you're stepping around the ring, unlike the L stance. When your feet are crossed, not only can you be knocked down easily, defenselessly, but you also can't throw a left well or a right at all
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Last edited by Reyesnuthugr; 01-08-2013 at 12:34 AM.
well the laying on top of you out of nowhere thing is definitely weird.
back foot forward gets taught at some gyms here to noobs as well. A few different people in a couple of different gyms have told me to do it that way when i've first come in. Both feet pointing forward, right heel off the ground a fair bit, shoulder width apart. Staggered obviously. I've never liked that stance either, too square and feels wonky. I have a couple bung nerves in my right leg so that doesn't help with the balance in that position. I've seen guys in these gyms using it well though.
edit. yep that first image.
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I prefer either my backfoot pointed 45 degree outward or L stance (backfoot pointed 90 degrees away) with my heel down most of the time as i like to be solid in my footing, which for me create balance and base when moving while i can also anchor myself when throw punches. But it is up to personal preferences i guess.
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back foot forward gets taught at some gyms here to noobs as well. A few different people in a couple of different gyms have told me to do it that way when i've first come in. Both feet pointing forward, right heel off the ground a fair bit, shoulder width apart. Staggered obviously. I've never liked that stance either, too square and feels wonky. I have a couple bung nerves in my right leg so that doesn't help with the balance in that position. I've seen guys in these gyms using it well though.
Exactly this. And it does feel very awkward to me too.
Def1, the first image, and I think he meant even closer to a straight line.
Yes, he just slaps people barehanded. I'm not exactly confortable with it, but I don't mind it much either. When we're doing something right he acknoledges it too.
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He laid on you to see good you are with your hips. Also to see how far your willing to let him touch you..
The hip part actually makes sense, in a non-porn way.
I hope.
His students are certainly taught to handle pressure. More than once I've seen him slap a student who was sparring, just before he warned them about something, usually about keeping their hands up.
It's a very pavlovian way of coaching. Not sure what my opinions are about it yet.
Answer to the laying on you thing: oopa escape. A little jits would of gone a long way
Exactly what I was thinking. I may not be good at much on the ground, but I bet I could bridge your coach off of me without much effort.
To Reyesnuthugr, the drawback is defensive. It's hard to put your rear foot and hip under your rear shoulder with both feet point almost straight forward. It's hard to keep your head off-center. And it naturally puts your head much closer to your opponent. None of those are good things if you hope to avoid getting punched, which should be the difference between boxing and just fist fighting.
And you don't have to load up on every hook. Even I can pop a decent hook out there without loading my hips first.
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