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01-07-2013, 10:36 PM
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First, I'm going to assume that by training the olympic lifts that the associated assistance lifts are included, Ie. squats, presses, posterior chain, ab work, etc. Because otherwise it's stupid. I'm only bothering to mention this because someone above, for whatever reason, seemed to think it might not be the case.
Can someone who's strength work is based primarily around olympic lifting benefit from benching? Yes, as it's a good exercise to develop the pressing muscles, even if benching maximum weight isn't a priority for you.
But, is there a good place for benching in your training? Maybe, or maybe not. Remember that every time you bench, it'll be one less time you press or do other overhead work. So depending on the amount of time and energy you have to put into S&C, it could well be better to narrow your focus to presses and other overhead work, and put benching aside for now.
And weigh that against the cost of having to buy a quality bench, a rack with pins at bench height, and possibly some kind of safeties.
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01-07-2013, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tosa
First, I'm going to assume that by training the olympic lifts that the associated assistance lifts are included, Ie. squats, presses, posterior chain, ab work, etc. Because otherwise it's stupid. I'm only bothering to mention this because someone above, for whatever reason, seemed to think it might not be the case.
Can someone who's strength work is based primarily around olympic lifting benefit from benching? Yes, as it's a good exercise to develop the pressing muscles, even if benching maximum weight isn't a priority for you.
But, is there a good place for benching in your training? Maybe, or maybe not. Remember that every time you bench, it'll be one less time you press or do other overhead work. So depending on the amount of time and energy you have to put into S&C, it could well be better to narrow your focus to presses and other overhead work, and put benching aside for now.
And weigh that against the cost of having to buy a quality bench, a rack with pins at bench height, and possibly some kind of safeties.
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yes theyre having me work on all that as well, sorry. i mentioned it in my last post.
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01-08-2013, 12:54 AM
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Personally I would never want to quit benching entirely. I fucked up and tore a pec benching and that didn't even stop me. I'm not a bench monkey though, only 1-2 times per week. But I think benching once a week is enough if you're not focusing on it.
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01-08-2013, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by redaxe
Personally I would never want to quit benching entirely. I fucked up and tore a pec benching and that didn't even stop me. I'm not a bench monkey though, only 1-2 times per week. But I think benching once a week is enough if you're not focusing on it.
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I love benching. No idea why; I dont compete with anyone & its not really a demanding workout. I think its because i sucked at it so much as a kid i dont want to go back to those days lol
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01-08-2013, 02:08 AM
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if you like it do it dude , my focus is primarily oly lifts too but ive been doing dynamic benching lately. havent tested to see if im stronger yet but i do it cos i like doing it
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01-08-2013, 03:11 AM
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This is frequent advice IMO caused by Olly specialists/elite competitors who don't bench.
Whether that is a good idea or not (and I don't presume to know) if you want to get strong bench. And if you want to get strong, and bench, then definitely don't drop it, it won't do any harm
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01-08-2013, 05:37 AM
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Bench if you want to, but don't do stupid shit with it. Marc Huster, German weightlifting legend, tore muscles while benching twice. You don't want to be injured and miss competitions because of your "beach muscle"-training...
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01-08-2013, 06:49 AM
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Bench if you like its not gonna help you get better at anything but benc though
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01-08-2013, 07:28 AM
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I can think of numerous reasons a nice bench can help a fighter not related to striking. I would just not place it on high in the priority list. But to neglect a push entirely seems wrong just on balance issues.
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01-08-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lpaulgib
I can think of numerous reasons a nice bench can help a fighter not related to striking. I would just not place it on high in the priority list. But to neglect a push entirely seems wrong just on balance issues.
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im still doing pushups. and other calisthenics as well.
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