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01-04-2013, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by moreorless87
I don't see a massive improvement personally, the difference between JDS and Kongo clearly being that the latter has whatever his other weaknesses a much better power straight.
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I thought his head movement looked better in the 2nd JDS fight.
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Originally Posted by moreorless87
That said I think its a bit of a non issue, the wrestling difference between Silva and Cain is so great I can't see the fight being standing for more than a few seconds at the start of each round. Silva really hasnt shown the ability to counter takedown atempts much either which would IMHO be his best chance at victory here besides maybe surviving and outlasting Cain(either seeming unlikely with the punishment he'd take).
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Agree with all of that.
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01-04-2013, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RumpinStumpin
This comment is null and void since TheComebakcKid thought of it first. You should have thought of your own idea instead of plagiarizing others work.
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01-04-2013, 06:29 AM
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Weird thread
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01-04-2013, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MMAfanWA
And by "smashed him into pieces," you mean Cain won a decision, right?
Lying unconscious on the ground vs. completing five rounds = big difference
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Yeah, there is a difference. Beating somone in all facets of MMA for 5 rounds > catching them early with a big shot, at least IMO.
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01-04-2013, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by The Soothsayer
Talking about the Kongo fight is not only reaching, but it's the same as bringing up Anderson's weaknesses from years ago.
And it's avoiding the fact that Cain put a historic beatdown on Kongo in that fight. Utter desperation on the part of Cain detractors.
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Cain still gets tagged by good strikers, im not sure what you guys are talking about here
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01-04-2013, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by The Soothsayer
A MW champion with mediocre TDD against the HW champion who might be the best wrestler in MMA. Hmmm. No intelligent poster favors Anderson in that fight. And how is there no denying Anderson's Cain's hardest test? It's pretty easy to deny. Junior's much larger, he's harder to take down, and he hits harder. Cain just smashed him into pieces.
It's so funny how Anderson's cult sings and sings about his fighting weight is 185 (especially when begging the skies to keep that scary Jon Jones away), but all of a sudden, he's near Cain's size for this fight.
Whatever guys. Keep worshipping another man like he's a superhero in a comic book. I've loved every fight of Anderson's career, but your steadfast zealotry toward another grown man has me feeling a little awkward.
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No way you "loved every fight of Anderson's career." No one could love the Leites/Maia fights.
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01-04-2013, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TheComebackKid
A) you act like looping overhand rights from a big powerful guy is the only way to ko Cain. A well placed Anderson Silva jab or right cross would rock Cain. Plus with Cains habit of ducking his head and rushing in for takedowns I see flying knees and front kicks as options too.
B) sorry, he was rocked several times. That means hes susceptible to getting hurt on the feet which means Silva can aso hurt him on thw feet.
C) Lol Junior caught Cain a bunch of times in their second fight. Knocked him off balance a few times too.
Youre not very good at analyzing fights huh?
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Chael knocked Anderson off balance. That means Anderson's susceptible to getting hurt on the feet which means Cain can "aso" hurt him on "thw" feet.
And then there's the fact that Anderson's wrestling is mediocre. And his fighting weight is 55-65 pounds beneath Cain's. Or that Chael's bullrush style is exactly what Cain did to Junior, only he's a much better striker than Chael, and his stamina is far more impressive despite being a heavyweight. And that Anderson has a history of being unable to get back to his feet once on his back. Or that unlike Okami, Maia, and whoever else, Cain's not afraid of Anderson.
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01-04-2013, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by The Soothsayer
That's not smashing him to pieces? Want to try again?
And they're both dominant victories. And I give Junior credit then, but Cain's champ now. He's the best. He earned it. And like the first fight was a glorious win for Junior, there is zero question to Cain's victory. All you can do it pout if you don't like it.
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Swollen eye, swollen lip and mouse from headbutts =/= smashed to pieces
If Cain had FINISHED Junior at some point, then your pretty little turn of phrase would have been more fitting
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01-04-2013, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TheComebackKid
Cain still gets tagged by good strikers, im not sure what you guys are talking about here
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He didn't get tagged with anything special in a 5 round fight against arguably the greatest striker in the division.
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01-04-2013, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Animal Cracker
No way you "loved every fight of Anderson's career." No one could love the Leites/Maia fights.
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Actually, I didn't watch Leites live, so it was pretty boring when it watched it afterwards.
The Maia fight, though, was pretty funny through the first 3 rounds. The last 2 weren't very exciting. Though Maia's resilience in the fifth round was commendable.
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