Are people in unskilled jobs getting dumber?

[TheGauntlet7**]

Originally Posted by cms9690

Engineers generally make fucking bank, you act as though you're surprised? Besides, lower income=/=a less successful job. Maybe the assistant, despite making less than an engineering INTERN, loved the fuck out of her job?

I'm surprised that an intern still studying for his B.S. can make more than a fulltimer with a MASTERS yes. And who LOVES 8 hours of typing, filing, and scheduling a day?

[TheGauntlet7**]

Originally Posted by Bolshevik

no. people in jobs like sales, marketing, pr. also, people that don't have jobs

In my experience I haven't met anyone that stupid in those jobs. I'm sure there are many stupid unemployed, but they account for what, 8%?

[cms9690]

Originally Posted by TheGauntlet7

I'm surprised that an intern still studying for his B.S. can make more than a fulltimer with a MASTERS yes. And who LOVES 8 hours of typing, filing, and scheduling a day?

Yes, because a piece of paper degree automatically equates to a higher pay check regardless.

Maybe she does? I don't fucking know. Lots of people dislike fighting, yet there are some hardcore enthusiasts and hobbyists that hangout on this forum quite often.

Worry less about unskilled workers and more about yourself.

[TheGauntlet7**]

Originally Posted by cms9690

Yes, because a piece of paper degree automatically equates to a higher pay check regardless.

Maybe she does? I don't fucking know. Lots of people dislike fighting, yet there are some hardcore enthusiasts and hobbyists that hangout on this forum quite often.

Worry less about unskilled workers and more about yourself.

I would think generally it does. And I would like to care less, but I interact with them quite often since I'm not a hermit. I eat out, order clothes, add insurance on my iphone, etc.

[mb23100]

i deal with a lot of support people over the phone in my job and ive realized recently that it seems like they are simply reading off of a troubleshooting guide instead of having true knowledge of the system. i suppose they can pay them less or dont have to pay for training that way

[TheGauntlet7**]

Originally Posted by mb23100

i deal with a lot of support people over the phone in my job and ive realized recently that it seems like they are simply reading off of a troubleshooting guide instead of having true knowledge of the system. i suppose they can pay them less or dont have to pay for training that way

I got that feeling too! I don't know what the solution is because I'm still flabbergasted as to why the level of service has depreciated in the last few years.

[cms9690]

Originally Posted by TheGauntlet7

I would think generally it does. And I would like to care less, but I interact with them quite often since I'm not a hermit. I eat out, order clothes, add insurance on my iphone, etc.

Haha, ask a recent college graduate how they're doing with their degree.

Just because you interact with people on a regular basis doesn't mean you have to give a shit and post lame threads online about how stupid you think they are.

Originally Posted by mb23100

i deal with a lot of support people over the phone in my job and ive realized recently that it seems like they are simply reading off of a troubleshooting guide instead of having true knowledge of the system. i suppose they can pay them less or dont have to pay for training that way

This I can truly agree with.

[Bolshevik***]

Originally Posted by TheGauntlet7

In my experience I haven't met anyone that stupid in those jobs. I'm sure there are many stupid unemployed, but they account for what, 8%?

i guess it depends on how you define "stupid". just because they're good at their jobs doesn't mean that they're on a short-list for a nobel prize.

Originally Posted by cms9690

Yes, because a piece of paper degree automatically equates to a higher pay check regardless.

i remember a high school teacher telling us about her friend's husband. the guy had his law degree, he'd passed the bar, and he was working part time jobs trying to make ends' meet.

[adam199]

Some places are inevitably going to have shit workers. There were a lot of stores where I grew up that usually hired no one but high school kids, and they'd recommend their buddies, and then treat work like a social gathering. IMO it's not the worker's fault; it's management's fault.

I worked at a store when I was 18 with people in my age group, and we all dicked around sometimes, but got our jobs done, mostly because management set very strict rules and guidelines for what needed to be done and when. If you didn't get it done without excuse, you were pretty close to getting fired already.

When you hear someone talk about how they do nothing at work all day, it's usually followed by, "LOL my manager is too stupid to notice."

[TheGauntlet7**]

Originally Posted by Bolshevik

i guess it depends on how you define "stupid". just because they're good at their jobs doesn't mean that they're on a short-list for a nobel prize.



i remember a high school teacher telling us about her friend's husband. the guy had his law degree, he'd passed the bar, and he was working part time jobs trying to make ends' meet.

I thought I gave an example of stupid earlier. About the husband, what law school did he graduate from? My cousin told me law is tough because there are much more students than positions, and that the quality of the institution is paramount.