| Gear & Equipment Discussion Did I mention that the gear you use is cheap and flimsy? |
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12-29-2012, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCP84
Personally I don't see it happening, why would someone pay $150 for a new brand with no background, when you can buy a Cleto Reyes for $140?
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cleto reyes was new once as well...  just a thought!!!
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12-29-2012, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by topboxer11
cleto reyes was new once as well...  just a thought!!!
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And they weren't charging $150+
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12-30-2012, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCP84
And they weren't charging $150+
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they were charging something and a good amount by that time.but we are,nt comparing our products to any other as we are doing our own unique work.the point is if we are charging $150+ we are providing a true sense of customization and highly customized product only made for a specific person according to his/her personal requirement.for instance if you want a snug fit or space inside glove compartment,weather you want a puncher glove or protection gloves with extra padding,which color leather will go to which part of your gloves all is what YOU decide and WE make it,a whole team of highly SKILLED people work together and put their effort in designing,making,changing,choosing and a long process involving many steps for just one piece of gloves or gear and sometimes it requires making prototypes before making and dispatching the final product to our valuable customers...all of this in just $150!!!trust me its a very good bargain for people having taste for customized high quality gear.and i believe that cleto reyes wont do that much in $140...
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12-30-2012, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by topboxer11
they were charging something and a good amount by that time.but we are,nt comparing our products to any other as we are doing our own unique work.the point is if we are charging $150+ we are providing a true sense of customization and highly customized product only made for a specific person according to his/her personal requirement.for instance if you want a snug fit or space inside glove compartment,weather you want a puncher glove or protection gloves with extra padding,which color leather will go to which part of your gloves all is what YOU decide and WE make it,a whole team of highly SKILLED people work together and put their effort in designing,making,changing,choosing and a long process involving many steps for just one piece of gloves or gear and sometimes it requires making prototypes before making and dispatching the final product to our valuable customers...all of this in just $150!!!trust me its a very good bargain for people having taste for customized high quality gear.and i believe that cleto reyes wont do that much in $140...
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Well Cleto Reyes has already put in their RD, and if I remember correctly, Bill stated that the $150 (which is going up) was for the std. facesaver. The Reyes facesaver I have fits like it was made for me. I am sure you guys make good stuff, but as I said originally, I doubt someone is going to take a chance on a brand new brand with gear made overseas that is being sold at a premium; it is the same as Ringside and their Heritage line, only a few have taken the plunge.
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12-30-2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCP84
And that is why I don't like white gloves.
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For some reason I detect a bit of negativity in all your post regarding our product. I've been involved in boxing for nearly 50 years and have dealt with many numerous glove manufacturers. If you don't like us then opt for REYES and ask them to make you custom colors, shape, sizes and options and see their responce. I've been around gloves and glove making for all those years and many on here know me and my association with boxing and gloves. We offer more 4 less and try our best to accommodate all requests at a fair market price. Try asking the two big names what they'd charge for what we can offer for $150.00 Thanks for your interest.
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12-30-2012, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by billboxing
For some reason I detect a bit of negativity in all your post regarding our product. I've been involved in boxing for nearly 50 years and have dealt with many numerous glove manufacturers. If you don't like us then opt for REYES and ask them to make you custom colors, shape, sizes and options and see their responce. I've been around gloves and glove making for all those years and many onhere know me and my association with boxing and gloves. We offer more 4 less and try our best to accommodate all requests at a fair market price. Try asking both Winning and Grant what they'd charge for what we can offer for $150.00 Thanks for your interest.
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If I wanted to go with a lesser know brand, I would/have dealth with Technoir and get custom gear made in Mexico. Just like all the other brands you are just changing the colour of the leather, and using the same patterns; it is not like you are reinventing the gloves. Also, it is great you have all that experience.... But, you are not the ones actually making the gloves, you are relying on a factory in Pakistan to produce your products.
I have nothing against your brand, I just find it strange that after you sell off your original samples, you jack your prices; and then announce the price of leather has gone up, so you are going to adjust the prices accordingly.
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12-30-2012, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCP84
If I wanted to go with a lesser know brand, I would/have dealth with Technoir and get custom gear made in Mexico. Just like all the other brands you are just changing the colour of the leather, and using the same patterns; it is not like you are reinventing the gloves. Also, it is great you have all that experience.... But, you are not the ones actually making the gloves, you are relying on a factory in Pakistan to produce your products.
I have nothing against your brand, I just find it strange that after you sell off your original samples, you jack your prices; and then announce the price of leather has gone up, so you are going to adjust the prices accordingly.
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thats funny,,,do we have to tell you about inflation???i guess its pretty known fact that the prices of everything are going up same as with leather and material used but yet its not such a price increase to complain about.and you are so mistaken sir because our research and development team is reinventing and changing patterns and we are coming out with different styles and products which are more boxer friendly and innovative.well and you are mistaken again that we are relying on some factory as it sounds as i am even now at the moment sitting at that place in pakistan where these products are being made and honestly its not some robotic factory its a place where a group of highly skilled professional people is providing very best of the gear available in market at very reasonable price and we act and think of our work more sort of art and not only some money making business as it involves personal details.we make things for people not for unknown faces and we know who are going to use them and what they want and expect us to make for them.i am bill,s associate.i can help you clarify any further mistakes and misconceptions if you have.and we are actually the ones making these gloves as a team and bill is the core of that team.try us if you really want to know about us and our products and if you are,nt here just for trying to discourage us...have a great day  ...
Last edited by topboxer11; 12-30-2012 at 06:01 PM.
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12-30-2012, 06:06 PM
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Lol
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12-30-2012, 09:21 PM
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Is it me or everytime i venture into a thread in F16 i could always expecting some negative responses from BigCP84?
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12-30-2012, 11:44 PM
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Definitely, but I would agree with him here. It's asking a lot for a brand that hasn't established itself yet.
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