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Old 12-27-2012, 12:16 PM   #11
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If your just starting to weight lift now, if you take it serious you'll be getting the biggest gains possible,the biggest gains are always at the start and gaining all this muscle at the start will add alot of weight to you if your a skinny guy like me that has a hard time putting fat on

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Old 12-27-2012, 12:17 PM   #12
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One more thing, size does not equal strength. I am 140, 22, and get the you're a lot stronger then you look compliments a lot, both in the gym, and when grappling. Most of it's mental, I believe I am stronger and so I am. Don't discredit that. The other of course is I work towards strength more than size. I like being lean (not even wrestler-cut, just an above-average fit 140lb, 5'8 dude), I like having cardio that goes for days, I like my opponents underestimating me when I enter divisions where the limit is 10lbs over my weight, and they have all cut from 150-160. It gives you a mental edge when they lock in and realize you are no push-over. I'm telling you, just believing you are stronger is 50% of the game, the other 50% of the game is what you do with the bar in the gym.

For both size and strength look into the compound lifts, 5x5's for strength, 5x8-12's for size. Isolation work where you need it. I usually do a compound lift, a major exercise for the other half of my body, a horizontal row of some sort (t-bar rows all day), pull-ups (add weight too!), any isolation work, and an exercise to work the antagonist muscles around the isolation work.

Seriously, row. Rowing builds size and strength. I LOVE rowing probably as much as I love Squats, and I love squats like I love women. Vertical rowing motions (pull-ups) build width; horizontal rowing builds thickness. Don't neglect!

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Old 12-27-2012, 12:38 PM   #13
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One more thing, size does not equal strength. I am 140, 22, and get the you're a lot stronger then you look compliments a lot, both in the gym, and when grappling. Most of it's mental, I believe I am stronger and so I am. Don't discredit that. The other of course is I work towards strength more than size. I like being lean (not even wrestler-cut, just an above-average fit 140lb, 5'8 dude), I like having cardio that goes for days, I like my opponents underestimating me when I enter divisions where the limit is 10lbs over my weight, and they have all cut from 150-160. It gives you a mental edge when they lock in and realize you are no push-over. I'm telling you, just believing you are stronger is 50% of the game, the other 50% of the game is what you do with the bar in the gym.

For both size and strength look into the compound lifts, 5x5's for strength, 5x8-12's for size. Isolation work where you need it. I usually do a compound lift, a major exercise for the other half of my body, a horizontal row of some sort (t-bar rows all day), pull-ups (add weight too!), any isolation work, and an exercise to work the antagonist muscles around the isolation work.

Seriously, row. Rowing builds size and strength. I LOVE rowing probably as much as I love Squats, and I love squats like I love women. Vertical rowing motions (pull-ups) build width; horizontal rowing builds thickness. Don't neglect!
interesting read, i never considered the mental aspect. And good advice about the pulling motions.

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Old 12-27-2012, 06:40 PM   #14
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Cool, thanks! Do you think 110 pounds is enough weight to keep me lifting for a year or that?
No, not on SS.

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Old 12-27-2012, 06:51 PM   #15
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2lbs of *muscle* a month is considered above-average. Expect half-of-that over the course of the entire year. Not to discourage you but just letting you know that it takes time to put on lean muscle. Now also putting on some fat will help as-well and is also a healthy thing. If I was you I'd aim for a good 50lbs, mostly muscle, over the next 2 years. With your height 160-180 is a good range. Good luck!
You're missing an important fact. He's 15. He'll be growing in size no matter what he does. So if he lifts weights along with that he can expect gains greater than just the average from lifting weights.

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No, not on SS.
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You're missing an important fact. He's 15. He'll be growing in size no matter what he does. So if he lifts weights along with that he can expect gains greater than just the average from lifting weights.
Ok, good to know, thanks.

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