You ought to either train with Muay Thai guys or spar with them consistently once you get to Oz, Nuke. Even Arni knows how to throw a good hard kick. Plus, the teep and side kick work very smoothly into a boxing game at range. I personally find that the principles of boxing apply very smoothly to the kicking game with a few adjustments for range and reach. But I still throw "hooking" (round) kicks to stop circling and I still threaten the opponent's advance and protect my space with "jabbing" (teep/front) kicks.
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I don't understand. You could choose any rules to kumite with those guys and you chose something that completely eliminates any advantage you might of had from studying boxing principles?
Im sure it sounded better during the planning phase
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Okay, the foot positioning thing vs. opposite-stanced fighters. Here's something from Memory's thread to Discipulus:
And here were my comments on it:
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However the thing that impresses me most about THAT fight is he approached fighting a Southpaw almost tactically perfectly. If you notice, he threatens the Southpaw's center line with his lead leg, and lead hand when he's close enough. This goes against modern thought of always stepping outside the right foot of the Southpaw. But it puts the Southpaw in bad positions FIRST. Once he established the threat to the center line, then he steps over the wall (outside the right foot) and utilizes rear-limb attacks, particularly kicks in this video. This is what confuses a Southpaw enough to be put in a position to be knocked-out. And it looked like he landed that right hand from inside the wall, I'd wager the opponent thought he was going to step before throwing a rear-hand attack, as he'd done before.
As for inside the wall vs. outside the wall (the wall being the back side of the lead foot), it's just a matter of being in places and at angles where the opponent has no means to counter. Inside is a bit more dangerous because you have to cross the line of the power-hand (typically) to do it. However if the guy has a more powerful hook than a cross, that is not the case. They can also turn and face you a little easier, albiet they'll be squared-up if they don't know how to do so properly. Outside the wall it's more difficult for them to face you, but being as hitting the back side of the body is illegal in nearly every combat sport, it does have less productive targets to attack.
EDIT** - I forgot to mention that Andre Ward and Sergio Martinez do not utilize inside angles simply because they're faster. For one thing, I think Dawson is faster than Ward is and he showed so in the few moments he went on the attack in that bout. Ward and Martinez exploit inside angles because they're smarter than most of their opposition. Giving a guy the outside angle when you know what you're doing lures them into a false sense of security, they'll always feel they have the advantage from the on-set. So they won't look to change positions, even when their center line is threatened. Dawson also stands habitually too sideways. Attacking the center line was a good way for Ward to make him stand even MORE sideways. As for Chavez, his left hook is a FAR greater threat than his right hand, moving into his left hook all night is not a smart move. Martinez moved both ways very well, until that 12th round.
And lol at Mayweather fighting Ward. Why would a career lightweight who is barely as big as 154 where he currently has a Title want to fight a 168lb'er who likely cuts down from 170+? Lofty thinking on that one.
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And lol at Mayweather fighting Ward. Why would a career lightweight who is barely as big as 154 where he currently has a Title want to fight a 168lb'er who likely cuts down from 170+? Lofty thinking on that one.
Yup.
Ppl forget that PBF could (and by all rights should) fight at junior welter (140lbs) .
If it wasn't for Paul Williams moving up to the middleweight division , he (and Paquiao) would've stayed there.
You ought to either train with Muay Thai guys or spar with them consistently once you get to Oz, Nuke. Even Arni knows how to throw a good hard kick. Plus, the teep and side kick work very smoothly into a boxing game at range. I personally find that the principles of boxing apply very smoothly to the kicking game with a few adjustments for range and reach. But I still throw "hooking" (round) kicks to stop circling and I still threaten the opponent's advance and protect my space with "jabbing" (teep/front) kicks.
That reminded me i need to get back to practice teep.
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I don't understand. You could choose any rules to kumite with those guys and you chose something that completely eliminates any advantage you might of had from studying boxing principles?
Like Bay said, it sounded good in planning phase because i thought it was just normal, light kumite and stuffs (where i had successfully use some of the boxing principals into it), not that kind of execution.
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