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Old 12-17-2012, 12:15 PM   #121
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That is a funny video. And I would like to point out that the dude in it was a 'champion gunfighter' or whatever the fuck that is.

I personally think the video amply proves my point. Guns are plenty deadly without having to make them 30 round semi-automatic weapons.

The advert for the Bushmaster weapon could be like, 'Now, even the stupidest of dipshits can kill people just as effectively as world champion gunfighters!!!!!!!!!.'
His skill is more in hitting the targets than in how fast he loaded the shotgun.

Random fat guy (maybe he's also a champion, but I doubt it ):



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Capacity limits, bans on certain types of action, certain calibres, cosmetic features, folding stocks, muzzle breaks etc etc... all a red herring.

Proliferation and culture (mostly related to acceptability of the use of guns for common self defense) is the issue.

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:17 PM   #122
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The Bushmaster lanza used is not a fully automatic Rifle. It is a semi-automatic with a 30 round magazine and you do not need a class 3 FFL to buy it.
I know, I own one. I am referring to the belt fed weapon and the full auto aa-12 from your other post

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:18 PM   #123
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the 223-5.56 round was designed and used by the military to wound and not kill the enemy, they figured caring for wounded soldiers tied up more people than killing them


one reason we shot so much is because really thats how you aim, watch where your bullet hits and adjust accordingly. Shooting the AR you rip through as many bullets as you can squeeze off with each pass, that and you want the animal to die quickly
But shooting a lot of rounds does not = dying quickly. What happened to "one shot, one kill" ???

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:20 PM   #124
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The Bushmaster Lanza used is not a fully automatic Rifle. It is a semi-automatic with a 30 round magazine and you do not need a class 3 FFL to buy it.
I'm amazed at how many times in news reports the weapon was referred to as "automatic." It's ridiculous that they would consistently get such a major difference wrong.

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:22 PM   #125
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because media.

Hey TS, gullible is written all over the front page. Alt+F4 to read the latest news.

*removed comments until reports are finalized.

Gun rights shouldn't even be a question at this stage because we know it was his MOTHER who bought the guns. Gun owner responsibility is an issue, she should've kept them secured. Background checks that include mental stability of every occupant of the dwelling, including the purchaser, the purchased weapons will be primarily stored? It's a thought.

How many of you are aware of the massacre that occurred in China on the same day, with a KNIFE. 22 kids were slashed, horrific. Just as horrific.

The problem isn't a gun, or a knife; it's our society, it's mental illness, it's broken homes and shattered dreams, it's all the things that everyone sees and no one acknowledges until it's too late. The problem is you, and me and everyone who picked on a kid that was struggling in school. The problem is the kid who gets picked on and says nothing because of fear. The problem is the fear itself.

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:24 PM   #126
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I'm amazed at how many times in news reports the weapon was referred to as "automatic." It's ridiculous that they would consistently get such a major difference wrong.
Well it's not like the brains of the country go into journalism.

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:24 PM   #127
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But shooting a lot of rounds does not = dying quickly. What happened to "one shot, one kill" ???
when you're dangling out of the door of a moving helicopter rookies aren't exactly sharp shooters and to be honest, pulling the trigger as fast as you can is half the fun

the first hog I shot that day died/disappeared after one head shot, the rest ran until we filled them with bullets

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Old 12-17-2012, 12:27 PM   #128
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So they want to introduce a ban on assault weapons. Can do just as much damage with handguns.



Killed more, less vulnerable people without an "assault rife."



Looking for the +1 in the chamber transition shooting vids.

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Was that gun even used in the shooting , why are you crying about it ts

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when you're dangling out of the door of a moving helicopter rookies aren't exactly sharp shooters and to be honest, pulling the trigger as fast as you can is half the fun

the first hog I shot that day died/disappeared after one head shot, the rest ran until we filled them with bullets
that is a very hard shot, any one who has ever shot while moving knows how hard that would be. Just killing the hogs and not using the meat is not cool though, even if you don't like game donate the meat don't just leave it to rot!

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