bicep strength

[Smeaglebutcrack]

Originally Posted by Ernest

haha I have to grind out the last couple reps but I can do it. For bench my 1rm should be around 140 and for deadlift and squat it should be 165+. Yes I'm weak but I just started and I'm making progress. For chin-ups I can do 3 sets of 10+ easily. I've been doing chin-ups longer than the other lifts because I was interested in military service.

"How much do you weigh bro?"

164

Not too bad for just starting off,

Keep it up man and you'll see gains,

[lpaulgib]

Originally Posted by Ernest

haha I have to grind out the last couple reps but I can do it. For bench my 1rm should be around 140 and for deadlift and squat it should be 165+. Yes I'm weak but I just started and I'm making progress. For chin-ups I can do 3 sets of 10+ easily. I've been doing chin-ups longer than the other lifts because I was interested in military service.

"How much do you weigh bro?"

164

I'm not talking shit, but your way too weak in the core lifts to where you should think about curls being s weak point.

[Ernest]

You might be right about that. Anyway, I've wanted to try adding load to my chin-ups pull-ups for a while.

[mfgillia]

Originally Posted by lpaulgib

I'm not talking shit, but your way too weak in the core lifts to where you should think about curls being s weak point.

Exactly. In the beginning of this thread I was quite amused at the initial rejection of curls in favor of chins and dead lifts for a guy asking about biceps. At first, it almost seemed as if merely mentioning the most obvious exercise for biceps was grounds to be labeled a pretentious body builder and excommunicated from this forum.

On the other hand, a relative newbie with limited experience in the main lifts is exactly the type of person that should listen to those preaching chins and DLs versus curls.

[lpaulgib]

Something just sounds fishy when people start asking about curls. Usually there is a huge deficiency in main lifts when someone asks a question like this.


Strong people rarely ask about curls. And when you get to the point you need to address weak biceps as a weakpoint for a major lift, you will be smart enough to address it.


Curls do have a purpose and can be useful. I do a couple sets a month on a 5x5 with a barbell.



And to the TS yeah man keep up the hard work. I'm not talking shit because I'm weak sauce compared to guys like Honkey

[TeddyRoosevelt]

From a combat sports perspective:

Personally, I know that whilst grappling my biceps often fatigue far more quickly than my back, due to extended muscular activation of the biceps in certain postitions. I have found direct bicep work to be necessary. I don't have time to do a lot of it, and to be honest I often wish I could do more.

[NurseKnuckles]

Originally Posted by Gotti McCarran

So what are kegels?

Can't believe I missed this? Notsureifserious.jpg!

[bobthebuilder]

Some interesting ideas here. I think that to maximise bicep strength some hypertrophy work is required, just like powerlifters sometimes do for squatting ie because the cross-sectional area of a muscle is positively related to its strength potential.

I don't want to start another biceps related thread so I'll ask this here as well, also because the discussion has already gone off track. Do bigger arms result in heavier punches? I think it is maybe true, there is some sense in it: more momentum (mass x accelleration) is generated if you can learn to throw something heavier at the same rate of accelleration via the hips. Maybe it is easier to increase the product if you increase the mass first - at some point it is difficult to increase accelleration. Possible examples in mma: Overeem and Carwin.

[tkdyo]

I suppose bigger arms couldnt hurt...if you can only throw arm punches, they may be less weak..but if your technique is already good, then adding strength to your hips and core will contribute much more to power than to arms. Proper technique in a punch makes it a whole body move, not just the arms.

So if your legs and hips are already strong for your size, but upper body is lagging then I could say catching up the arms and shoulders would yield some benefit. But really, you should be developing your whole body concurrently anyways, so as long as you are doing that, and improving your technique, your punching power will go up.

[Smeaglebutcrack]

Originally Posted by bobthebuilder

Some interesting ideas here. I think that to maximise bicep strength some hypertrophy work is required, just like powerlifters sometimes do for squatting ie because the cross-sectional area of a muscle is positively related to its strength potential.

I don't want to start another biceps related thread so I'll ask this here as well, also because the discussion has already gone off track. Do bigger arms result in heavier punches? I think it is maybe true, there is some sense in it: more momentum (mass x accelleration) is generated if you can learn to throw something heavier at the same rate of accelleration via the hips. Maybe it is easier to increase the product if you increase the mass first - at some point it is difficult to increase accelleration. Possible examples in mma: Overeem and Carwin.

I always used to hit hard but never had true one shot KO power more like 3-4 punch knockout power,

But when my triceps got alot stronger and bigger i was starting to drop people with 1-2 punches, usually 1 if its a uppercut or hook with my right.

But then again my triceps also got alot bigger around the same time i switched to matrix style lifting and my glutes got alot larger too.