Historically speaking, they say the way to beat a Southpaw is with a right hand, but I personally believe the left hook is more effective when you learn how to use it properly, because it comes in on the blindside and a Southpaw won't be able to see it so well.
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Historically speaking, they say the way to beat a Southpaw is with a right hand, but I personally believe the left hook is more effective when you learn how to use it properly, because it comes in on the blindside and a Southpaw won't be able to see it so well.
It seems like the rear straight is definitely the more obvious punch for opposite stance fighters to throw at each other, as it can shoot straight through the guard. But Andre Ward recently proved pretty decisively the utility of the hook against a fighter in opposite stance. It makes sense, considering that, if a guy is going to look away from your strike, it's going to be in the direction of your rear hand. Do you find success with feinting the rear hand to land the hook?
Edit: Basically, and I think I'm only echoing your sentiments here, the rear hand is the easy option, but the lead hook is a more effective option that takes more training to get down.
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Originally Posted by KennisTheMenace
At the gym tonight I was just thinking that the Pacman / JMM fight wasn't the first time this year I saw a Southpaw get countered by an Orthordox for a K.O. I was watching a guy from Minnesota in a Bellator fight one night to the same result, except when the Southpaw leaned his head in, he went for a body shot with his left hand.
I think us Orthodox guys are learning to always look for that right hand on these southpaws...
Shamhalaev and Richman are both excellent boxers by MMA standards. Shamhalaev in particular is a monster with his hands. Crazy speed, tight punches, and he always seems very balanced in this fight, even when obviously throwing with maximum power. Great knockout.
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I used to be a huge manny fan but i feel like hes really let his fundamentals down. granted he always was a agressive fighter but he wasnt reckless.
I remember watching the bradley fight expecting to see usual manny dominance and i really felt like hbo was showing incredible bias in that fight. I had bradley winning that fight and i dont believe pacquaio is the same fighter he was before marquez III.
Bradley was basically the busier fighter and pacquiao would just throw a few punches here and there but never be the same agressive hard puncher he used to be. And to me its like HBO was just acting like he was the old manny when he wasnt.
Most rounds were bradley beeing busier and granted even thought they werent hurting manny he was the busier the fighter. Now granted pacquiao was throwing the harder more effective punches but he used to to do both, throw the harder punches and be busier.
Now in this fight its almost like he tried beeing the old manny and got kod out for his effort. I feel like HBO is beeing so incredibly biased for manny for whatever reason that i dont think they are admiting that we are seeing a clearly inferior manny.
PS: yes, now that i remember hbo's computerbox had manny landed more punches but to me that was literally a lie. turns out this computerbox is just two guys pushing a buttom everytime they feel a pucnh landed.
I used to be a huge manny fan but i feel like hes really let his fundamentals down. granted he always was a agressive fighter but he wasnt reckless.
I remember watching the bradley fight expecting to see usual manny dominance and i really felt like hbo was showing incredible bias in that fight. I had bradley winning that fight and i dont believe pacquaio is the same fighter he was before marquez III.
Bradley was basically the busier fighter and pacquiao would just throw a few punches here and there but never be the same agressive hard puncher he used to be. And to me its like HBO was just acting like he was the old manny when he wasnt.
Most rounds were bradley beeing busier and granted even thought they werent hurting manny he was the busier the fighter. Now granted pacquiao was throwing the harder more effective punches but he used to to do both, throw the harder and be busier.
Now in this fight its almost like he tried beeing the old manny and got kod out for his effort. I feel like HBO is beeing so incredibly biased for manny for whatever reason that i dont think they are admiting that we are seeing a clearly inferior manny.
Whatever you might think about modern Pacquiao, scoring that fight for Bradley is nuts.
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i remember back when that fight happened, there was a huge debate about it on the forums, and i remember a lot people said pacquaio dominated bradley, but i feel like that was the hbo bias affecting things.
One way or the other to me that was a close fight. they were making it sound like this was pacquaio wooping his ass like the old days of hatton and de la hoya and i dont feel that was the case at all.
When you look at the computer box numbers in some of those rounds they were literally scoring every single punch pacquaio threw and it was just really weird. To me if you watch that fight on mute it doesnt look the same.
ps: i had actaully watched it after the fact when the controversy exploded about how he was robbed, and this was without ever having even seen the marquez 3 fight and i was expecting the manny of de la hoya and i was really surprised how the fight had actually turned out.
i remember back when that fight happened, there was a huge debate about it on the forums, and i remember a lot people said pacquaio dominated bradley, but i feel like that was the hbo bias affecting things.
One way or the other to me that was a close fight. they were making it sound like this was pacquaio wooping his ass like the old days of hatton and de la hoya and i dont feel that was the case at all.
When you look at the computer box numbers in some of those rounds they were literally scoring every single punch pacquaio threw and it was just really weird. To me if you watch that fight on mute it doesnt look the same.
ps: i had actaully watched it after the fact when the controversy exploded about how he was robbed, and this was without ever having even seen the marquez 3 fight and i was expecting the manny of de la hoya and i was really surprised how the fight had actually turned out.
Overhand rights and steroids, what else needs to be said?
Please. If that's all you see, then you don't understand the subtlety of Marquez' game at all. And if you think steroids were responsible for his win... well, then you don't understand what a steroid is or how it works. Marquez hits hard, and Manny lunges forward very quickly. When the two meet, something's gotta give. And in this case, it was Manny's jaw.
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If anything its peotic justice for the marquez III fight. I think the problem with judging a fight is we all have our own criteria on how to judge a fight.
Marquez is a great fighter but i belive all this fame is getting to mannys head and i dont think hes been taking his training camps seriously in his last three fights. i really used to admire the way he fought and i think its a shame we didnt see a manny maywheater before all this happened to him
If anything its peotic justice for the marquez III fight. I think the problem with judging a fight is we all have our own criteria on how to judge a fight.
True that. III belonged to Marquez, and I guess this was an emphatic way to reclaim the victory.
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