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12-04-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by UAK
of course he is not undefeated. It would be extremely silly to claim he is undefeated when he clearly has lost. A loss is actually a loss. Stop with the excuses. He will never ever have a perfect record.
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....jones didnt lose that fight. Hamill quit because of his shoulder injury from the throw, it didn't even have anything to do with the elbow.
Jon jones is unbeaten. As in....no one has beaten him. Including Matt Hamill.
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12-04-2012, 03:58 PM
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No. The rules exist for a reason.
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What reason would that be?
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12-04-2012, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravden
So you think Matt Hamill defeated Jon Jones by getting his ass kicked by him? That's bizarre. Where I'm from, the guy on bottom getting mangled is the one who lost the fight.
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That's a sad argument when the answer is that Jon Jones lost the fight due to breaking the rules. Period. Remember, this isn't a street-fight, so your "Where I'm from..." comment makes little sense. MMA is a sport with rules, Jon Jones broke them to win the fight, which forced the officials to step in and and tell him he loses.
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12-04-2012, 04:02 PM
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That's a sad argument when the answer is that Jon Jones lost the fight due to breaking the rules. Period. Remember, this isn't a street-fight, so your "Where I'm from..." comment makes little sense. MMA is a sport with rules, Jon Jones broke them to win the fight, which forced the officials to step in and and tell him he loses.
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So he was defeated by Matt Hamill by kicking his ass. That is what you are telling me? This is a fight sport. When people say someone is undefeated, it's because they have never been overcome. If your counter to that is that Jon Jones has a loss on his record because he beat someone's ass with an illegal strike, that is a sad argument.
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12-04-2012, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravden
So he was defeated by Matt Hamill by kicking his ass. That is what you are telling me?
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seems..reasonable 
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12-04-2012, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravden
So he was defeated by Matt Hamill by kicking his ass. That is what you are telling me?
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Are you 4 years old? Are you trying to stick your fingers in your ears and hope your comment is a semantics game?
Yes, Jon Jones was winning the fight but the second Jones breaks the contracted rules, he loses. Why can't you understand that? Seems very basic to me.
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12-04-2012, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravden
What reason would that be?
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North/South elbows are illegal according to the Unified Rules of MMA, pretty simple.
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So he was defeated by Matt Hamill by kicking his ass. That is what you are telling me?
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and this is how everyone know that ya never played sports
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12-04-2012, 04:06 PM
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Yeah I guess a loss is a loss if you are a thoughtless tool.
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12-04-2012, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JayMachiavelli
North/South elbows are illegal according to the Unified Rules of MMA, pretty simple.
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yeah but its a stupid rule that i have never seen actually enforced before that fight
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12-04-2012, 04:07 PM
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I don't like him, but I consider him unbeaten. Should make a poll.
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