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Old 12-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #1
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Moves to compliment the basics

Looking for some kicking and punching techniques to compliment the basics (Jab, cross, hook, uppercut, roundhouse, push kick etc)
I know, I know, its better to be a master of 6 techniques than decent at 100 techniques, but;
1) New more advance techniques look cool and are fun to learn - It keeps things interesting
2) It adds an element of surprise and unpredictability
3) Learning moves your opponent isn't ready for, can be a good way to breach there defences

Anybody want to suggest a technique or two that is rather unorthodox, but still practical (as in, lands fairly often) in full contact kickboxing style fighting?

I've been working on the spinning back hand and Andy Hug style low spinning heel kick :p

For my benefit, and for the benefit of others who come across the thread

Edit: heres a good fight where Andy Hug uses a spinning back hand and spinning heel kick early on, Vs Ernest Hoost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N542vsDX00U not really relevant, but a good fight and a good example

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Old 12-03-2012, 12:34 PM   #2
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Being fair (and a learner myself) throwing those 6 and any other you may learn in isolation is not the aim of the game

Its about piecing them together to be able to throw multiple combos which are ingrained in your muscle memory.

Once you have a wide range of combos, then its about mixing up the timing, Fakes, Staggered timing.

You got that down - then work up and down (head and body)

People practicing for years are trying to get all of the above into their arsenal. Its not about that one kick/punch but creating an opening to finding it and exploiting other openings that you can find/make

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Old 12-03-2012, 12:49 PM   #3
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Being fair (and a learner myself) throwing those 6 and any other you may learn in isolation is not the aim of the game

Its about piecing them together to be able to throw multiple combos which are ingrained in your muscle memory.

Once you have a wide range of combos, then its about mixing up the timing, Fakes, Staggered timing.

You got that down - then work up and down (head and body)

People practicing for years are trying to get all of the above into their arsenal. Its not about that one kick/punch but creating an opening to finding it and exploiting other openings that you can find/make
Oh dont get me wrong, I realise that, I just think that having a range of attacks can make you a bit harder to defence against.
I do agree that the whole timing, feints etc thing is vital as well
I didnt meant to imply that I thought there was one unstoppable attack that we should all implement lol

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Old 12-03-2012, 02:51 PM   #4
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2) It adds an element of surprise and unpredictability
3) Learning moves your opponent isn't ready for, can be a good way to breach there defences
hahahaha reminds me of a Karate Stylist post on these types of things only working on lesser fighters... a good fighter will not be fazed by new attacks

that being said i'm more of a keep it simple type of fighter....i live off the jab, lowkick, feints and counters

but one thing that might fall into this is a double jab or staggered jab:
-throw the first one fast focusing on speed and not power
-wait an instant before throwing the second one
-second one throw it with power,
-point of this is after the first, they come forward to counter and rush right into the second stiff jab

also after a couple of these you can fake the second jab and throw the left hook or a left kick to get behind their hand parrying the second jab or if your lucky catch them slipping to the outside of the jab leaving open for a head kick

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Old 12-03-2012, 03:52 PM   #5
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Looking for some kicking and punching techniques to compliment the basics (Jab, cross, hook, uppercut, roundhouse, push kick etc)
I know, I know, its better to be a master of 6 techniques than decent at 100 techniques, but;
There are so many different ways to throw a cross, uppercut etc and from different angles and I presume the same is true for kicks so it's not like you have 6 techniques down and then you can throw any punch and you have to get wacky with spinning stuff now. Have a look at sinister's thread on jabbing for example

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/magical-jabs-877950/

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:03 PM   #6
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no one uses the textbook punches or kicks, you gotta modify them to fit your style sooner or later, that is when you gonna have a style with advantages and weakness and become great and work hard to counter a fighter who's style is better than you and bla bla bla in conclusion, you become a fighter when you have a style

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #7
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A combination of basic techniques looks cool and has a high hit percentage. Now for example, a lunging hook followed by a right leg kick then a step back to get out of range. Do that a few times and once you think he has the timing down pat, add a cross as you're backing up. So you land an offense with a bonus counter on the way out.

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:58 PM   #8
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There are so many different ways to throw a cross, uppercut etc and from different angles and I presume the same is true for kicks so it's not like you have 6 techniques down and then you can throw any punch and you have to get wacky with spinning stuff now. Have a look at sinister's thread on jabbing for example

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/magical-jabs-877950/
Ive seen the thread before :p lol I'm not trying to say that the "basic" attacks are simple or easy to master, but I don't enjoy throwing up jabs as much as spinning back hands
I just wanted to know if there is a measure of balance between fanciness and practicality with some attacks.
My jab cross etc are far from perfect, I just want to learn a couple extra less predictable/traditional/common moves

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add the Brazilian kick (question mark kick) to your arsenal.

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add the Brazilian kick (question mark kick) to your arsenal.

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This

I catch ppl in sparring with it all the time. Especially if ur able to throw it with the lead leg and no windup- they just don't see it coming.

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