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11-30-2012, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidAvellan
You mean the same "wrestler stack" that Xande used to force Leandro to turtle (which scored the winning advantage) and win the no gi worlds absolute final this year?
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Just because it works at the highest levels of BJJ competition doesn't mean it's technical! 
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11-30-2012, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidAvellan
LOL, there is nothing to argue.
Someone claimed the technique was a "wrestler" move, when it is in fact a well known and used BJJ pass. Doesn't matter the division or weight class disparity - technique is technique whether used by a big guy or a small guy.
No need to apologize, I can understand. I would be grumpy to without delicious, fresh squeezed juice either.  |
lol, yeah i am too brain dead to think right now. i can't function without being able to edit.
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11-30-2012, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DW18
kind of odd saying buchecha when he's still 6'2-6'3
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Lol ive met the dude and hes not that tall
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11-30-2012, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by snoop dogg
Lol ive met the dude and hes not that tall
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You may be a bit off on that. I'm 5'11-6ftish.
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11-30-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidAvellan
LOL, there is nothing to argue.
Someone claimed the technique was a "wrestler" move, when it is in fact a well known and used BJJ pass. Doesn't matter the division or weight class disparity - technique is technique whether used by a big guy or a small guy.
No need to apologize, I can understand. I would be grumpy to without delicious, fresh squeezed juice either. |
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11-30-2012, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 100%Jiu-Jitsu
Just because it works at the highest levels of BJJ competition doesn't mean it's technical! |
If a person consistently drills and consistently pulls off a move in high level competition, why is it not technical?
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11-30-2012, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidAvellan
Someone claimed the technique was a "wrestler" move, when it is in fact a well known and used BJJ pass. Doesn't matter the division or weight class disparity - technique is technique whether used by a big guy or a small guy.
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I think it would be fair to say that in all the spectrum of passes, this one that a wrestler typically uses. Of course that doesn't make it a 'wrestling move' like the F5 or the 619, but it's just used by them a fair deal, I find.
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11-30-2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Holt
If a person consistently drills and consistently pulls off a move in high level competition, why is it not technical?
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Precisely my point. Sorry if the sarcasm was not as apparent as I intended.
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11-30-2012, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by robotsonic
Love how DJ was talking about Leandro Lo and without a hint of irony came out with 'he's not good, just strong', what a ludicrous accusation to make from guy who seems to win most of his black belt matches with wrestling and not jiujitsu.
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I know my gym recently had Leandro come out and do a seminar. The way he handled the blackbelts at my gym was mind boggling. He was going like 50% and just mauled everyone using NO strength.
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11-30-2012, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by portland
I know my gym recently had Leandro come out and do a seminar. The way he handled the blackbelts at my gym was mind boggling. He was going like 50% and just mauled everyone using NO strength.
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Yeah, I was at Portland Judo for the final day and it was bonkers. His timing and balance are mind boggling. That match i linked to earlier is against Renato Cardoso, who is a complete monster, but just look at those first 3 minutes, Lo is absolutely relentless with his passing, but he's never forcing it, he's just a step ahead at all times.
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