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Old 11-25-2012, 06:35 AM   #31
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Okay, this shit needs to stop. Schilt fucked up Guidon convincingly and it wasn't even a remotely close fight (despite a long lay off). Aside from that, even if he had had trouble with him, it was after a big lay off. He absolutely ravaged Zimmerman more recently and he is a much better fighter than Guidon.

Saki is not going to beat Schilt, ever. And if by some miracle he does, he'll be as fucked up as Aerts was after beating him in 2010 and subsequently get demolished in the finals. Not to mention Saki's skill level seems to declined pretty quickly between taking few fights and joining Mike's bumswing training center.

Schilt and Ghita are the obvious favorites here, and I favor Schilt by a little, but barely. I think it depends on who had the harder fights throughout.
Guidon does not stand a good chance, but never say never.
As for Saki, I think you are underestimating his chances, if he can pressure Schilt like Aerts did in the GP of 2010 he has a good chance.
I do not see why so many are being negative about his switch to Mike's Gym. He looked very well rounded against bouzidi and controlled that fight for 3 rounds.
I favor Ghita over Schilt cause I think Ghita's style plays well into the style of Schilt.

As for my favorites for Glory 4 (top 4):

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Old 11-25-2012, 12:18 PM   #32
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I expect to see Ghita and Schilt in the final.

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Old 11-25-2012, 01:11 PM   #33
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I'm going with Daniel Ghita.

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Old 11-25-2012, 02:08 PM   #34
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:23 PM   #35
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Ghita would be the fav IMO.

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Old 11-25-2012, 08:51 PM   #36
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Guidon does not stand a good chance, but never say never.
Guidon did ok, but people are overblowing it. I highly doubt he wins, but I do agree it'll tire Schilt if nothing else.

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As for Saki, I think you are underestimating his chances, if he can pressure Schilt like Aerts did in the GP of 2010 he has a good chance.
He doesn't have the power Aerts does, not the size and strength or effective aggression. Saki seems to be at his best trading combinations with an immobile fighter. Schilt moves a lot and controls the distance too well for Saki to get anything done. I don't think he will be able to hit Schilt anymore than Kyotaro, and if he doesn't want to get KO'd he'd probably fight the same way.
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I do not see why so many are being negative about his switch to Mike's Gym. He looked very well rounded against bouzidi and controlled that fight for 3 rounds.
I think he looked a good bit worse personally, and most fighters who go to Mike's gym get dramatically worse, so I just put 2 and 2 together.

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Great poster but very disrespectful for Saki, Bonjasky and Aoki.

And I didn't know Aerts was greater than Schilt in Japan.

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Guidon did ok, but people are overblowing it. I highly doubt he wins, but I do agree it'll tire Schilt if nothing else.



He (Saki) doesn't have the power Aerts does, not the size and strength or effective aggression. Saki seems to be at his best trading combinations with an immobile fighter. Schilt moves a lot and controls the distance too well for Saki to get anything done. I don't think he will be able to hit Schilt anymore than Kyotaro, and if he doesn't want to get KO'd he'd probably fight the same way.


I think he (Saki) looked a good bit worse personally, and most fighters who go to Mike's gym get dramatically worse, so I just put 2 and 2 together.
My thoughts exactly.

I'd picture Saki vs Schilt the same way you do. Although Saki's a lot more skilled than Kyotaro, he'd face the exact same problems.

I also have the filling Mike's gym is not the best option for top tier fighters.

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