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Originally Posted by SummerStriker
1. Well, punching in TKD is about pointless because it is really hard to get someone to shutter from a straight punch when they are wearing a chest protector. You can't blame them for being trained to not respect punches. That's the rule of the game.
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Reply #1. Sport vs. Mental Discipline. Of course, you are exactly right on how the typical TKD stylist approaches the application of hand strikes....
And when we participate in the MMA spotlight, of course, then again you are certainly correct about the sporting rules being in place....
But when change karate from the traditional principles that underpin it.... we see the dismal result, the weak and ineffectual performance against a more 'realistic' karate style.
IN my mind, I train to hit the person hard if I have to. I could care less if he has a chest protector on or not....
These TKD competitors changed TKD to a sport, and they got creamed. If the premise is wrong, the argument can be valid just as you say; nevertheless, the conclusion is FALSE....
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Originally Posted by SummerStriker
2. Trust me, it doesn't take long to take a TKD expert and educate him about MMA or freestyle fighting. I'm sure both the KK and the TKD guy have had a lot of training, years and years and years, but I know for sure that 3-4 months under and intelligent fighting instructor and that match wouldn't have gone that way.
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Reply #2. ^^^ I concur again. My point concerns why the
remedial training is necessary?
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Originally Posted by SummerStriker
It was kind of dumb of him to try and go into someone else's rules without being trained in them. It is just like a wrestler going into MMA without any coaching and being punched in the face, or a boxer without any MMA coaching and being taken down. Some has to explain the differences to you, but it doesn't take long to acclimate to them.
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Reply #3. I think too it's another dynamic for the TKD-loser which has been well-pointed out on the striking forum. Some experience @ cross-training outside of his style, meaning the conventions of TKD he had experienced.... would have presented a better background for assessing the KK opponent & what he would likely face....
MY TSD school, a multi-branch organization, is very dogmatic about what Tang Soo Do form is....
The reason for my undefeated sparring record @ the dojang, quite frankly, is you have up to very high-belt levels that know the technical form and dicta, yet would end up pretty much like the TKD against the KK guy.
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The APPLIED rule of
traditional karate is that you physically disable your opponent. My view, the traditionalist view, is that you don't adjust your training to conform with sporting rules. That is, you still train, mentally discipline yourself to knockdown.
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