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Old 11-23-2012, 08:40 PM   #21
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I actually would love--LOVE!--to find a good ITF TKD school and compete in their tourneys. I really like the sparring rules and think the shit looks like a ton of fun. They've figured out a good way to both allow hands to the head while also encouraging the use of wide variety of kicks.

Unfortunately, the ITF situation here in Utah is very poor.

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Old 11-23-2012, 09:00 PM   #22
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I actually would love--LOVE!--to find a good ITF TKD school and compete in their tourneys. I really like the sparring rules and think the shit looks like a ton of fun. They've figured out a good way to both allow hands to the head while also encouraging the use of wide variety of kicks.

Unfortunately, the ITF situation here in Utah is very poor.
hm well i was very young like 13 or 14 when i did it. im doing muay thai right now. i relearned all my karate stuff just before starting (because thats my background.) i actually learned stuff i had problems with before like the side kick, turning kicks to the point where i could do them real well. one of the cool things about sparring with mma and muay thai guys is you find a new way to use old techniques. i love side kicking the hip, using a little bit of a hook kick to go for a trip etc. I wouldnt hesitate to try it out if you havent. i mean you learn plenty of good new things in training but when it comes to sparring noone can argue with success karate/tkd techniques or not.

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Old 11-23-2012, 10:52 PM   #23
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I actually would love--LOVE!--to find a good ITF TKD school and compete in their tourneys. I really like the sparring rules and think the shit looks like a ton of fun. They've figured out a good way to both allow hands to the head while also encouraging the use of wide variety of kicks.

Unfortunately, the ITF situation here in Utah is very poor.
That kick the guy in red threw at about 27 seconds into the video was amazing.
I train at an ITF Gym and am hoping to sparr in one of their big tournements maybe next year. I guess we are a TKD gym that does both point and continuouse sparring so you might want to see if you have any gyms that just dont promote themselves as a ITF gym. Heres a video of one of the instructors, guys top notch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfUvypM-GQ&feature=plcp


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Old 11-24-2012, 01:32 AM   #24
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That kick the guy in red threw at about 27 seconds into the video was amazing.
It was a really nice kick. He has a few different moments like that throughout the video for sure.


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I train at an ITF Gym and am hoping to sparr in one of their big tournements maybe next year.
Good luck, man. That's cool as shit.


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I guess we are a TKD gym that does both point and continuouse sparring so you might want to see if you have any gyms that just dont promote themselves as a ITF gym.
I have actually looked quite thoroughly into the situation. Everything around here is part of the USTF (which teaches ITF TKD). I actually was part of the organization for a few months and, I guess, got my yellow belt in the style, even though I don't count it for anything.

In four months I never once saw any sparring. Even at the testing I participated in, in which red belts were promoted to brown belts, they didn't have to throw a punch at anyone.

It's all a fucking joke. But maybe one day I'll find a real ITF school. I have a serious love for that shit. I'm already 30 years old, though. So that kind of sucks.

These were the two vids that really turned me on to ITF TKD:













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Heres a video of one of the instructors, guys top notch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfUvypM-GQ&feature=plcp

Looks like a strong fighter. I love that moment at 1:06 where he nails his opponent with a side kick and the guy is like, What the fuck?

I'd like to see a little less reliance on the hopping side kick / roundhouse, though. After all, the ITF rules are great because they give you the opportunity to really mix it up.

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Whats your training background TS?

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so youre suprisied boxing is more scientific than say average ufc koshcheck standup? some forms of fighting just have more depth to them and often that translates to effectiveness of their given techs imo. mma for instance doesnt allow
I've come to enjoy & profit from the boxing discussion >>> that is the few times it's not LARPY....
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well i do think that when a mma guy listens to primary strikers talk about certain principles they look at him like a witch doctor. and i think its funny how the "wrestler/boxer" is said to be the best style despite a certain dismissal of the pure striking arts by mixed martial artists. until someone actually manages to use it in the cage. i think its a poor attitude for sportsmen who are supposed to by the nature of their game be more forward thinking.
^^^ Yes, forward thinking by some of my critics here is taking my posts (after trashing the concepts) and repackaging them in new T's. Then trashing me when I chime in (even when I'm complimentary.)

It's like that hillbilly son of the Appalachian mobster, in "Fire Down Below." @ Steven Seagal..." See, we're the educated people....
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,,,Heres a video of one of the instructors, guys top notch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfUvypM-GQ&feature=plcp
^^^ I think I see the instructor.... Now there's a guy who knows how to shut down a advancing striker opponent with a sidekick {front.}!
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I'd like to see a little less reliance on the hopping side kick / roundhouse, though. After all, the ITF rules are great because they give you the opportunity to really mix it up.
^^^ Too much reliance on striking, and within that, rapid multiple hand strikes....

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Old 11-29-2012, 09:38 AM   #27
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What makes WTF scientific?
It's approached as a science, taught as a science and trained as a science. Always has been. Never really been about "fighting" in the traditional sense as fighting to win WTF matches.

And I'm going to go ahead and say that for the most part, anyone who looks at these videos and screams "hands up!" Doesn't understand shit about striking.

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A little of this, a little of that. Mostly TMA, though.

I was involved with an ATA TKD school as a kid for about a year and a half.

Since then I've dipped my toes into the waters of ITF TKD, WTF TKD (not much, just enough to get an idea about what those guys do), Wado-ryu karate and Judo.

Oh, and wushu. Did a bit of that, but that was 15 years ago.

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^^^ Too much reliance on striking, and within that, rapid multiple hand strikes....
Too much reliance on striking? In a striking art?

Say it ain't so. . .

As for the rapid hand strikes, I probably tend to agree, but if you want to win under those rules that's the best way to do it.

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Why don't they punch each other in the face?

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