Of course it wasn't Saddler's primary defense, but the man liked to be very active with his hands, as you can see. I'm a big fan of handfighting, it just requires that you be aware of your own openings. A stance that limits those openings goes a long way toward making this style viable.
Good clip.His distance control is nice,which falls in the area of footwork. Parrying and distance control go hand in hand. If I parry,it's so I can be in range to fire right back.
Yep. A parry without advancing is more or less useless.
I'm with this one. Why parry if you aren't going to counter. I'm all for catch counters though. But lately I've began working it a bit differently, as instead of catch countering every single punch, I'll slip a few, work it a bit, then all of a sudden, drop a catch counter and end in a nice fashion.
Variety works best I think.
I'm with this one. Why parry if you aren't going to counter. I'm all for catch counters though. But lately I've began working it a bit differently, as instead of catch countering every single punch, I'll slip a few, work it a bit, then all of a sudden, drop a catch counter and end in a nice fashion.
Variety works best I think.
Simultaneous catch counter or catch then counter? I like to use simultaneous catch counter. Screws up their rhythm pretty good.
You tend to see it in the lighter weight classes, not so much in the heavier ones, which is a shame, they should know how to use it more. Watch the Frank Shamrock Phil Baroni fight, frank used the parry and counter quite a bit in that fight.
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People who deflect and parry as their primary defense method can be exploited fairly easily. Once the opponent finds this out with a few test shots to see how you defend he can feint,say a jab because he knows you're gonna try to parry,then changes the angle and throws the hook. Or he throws a body jab getting you to deflect it with your front hand and throws the overhand or straight right (orthodox). Slipping,footwork,and distance control are your best defense methods because you have both hands you can counter with. I only use deflections,parry's,and blocks if I screw up my timing or distance control or if I have to get out of a corner.
You think so? You forget that people that deflect and parry typically also move their feet and counter punch as well. You get your jab parried or caught, I guarantee you a counter jab or hook is coming your way nearly simultaneously.
P.S. Nobody [good] tries to deflect body jabs.
EDIT: NEVERMIND. You guys apparently already talked about counter punching. My bad.
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Originally Posted by pheonix5
NEVER hold your arms wide,ever. Who the hell told you that? Elbows in all the time. Parrying is about distance control where you're just outside the punch,and I'm talking inches, so you can be in range to fire back.
"a boxer would just shoot right between them and hit you in the face."
That's why you don't hold your arms wide.
Nak Muay. I doubt a boxer will go right up the middle there. ; )
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2. OUCH. AND, What do you do with the 'slicksters.' DOUBLE AND how dare you speak askance of focus mitts, focus pads.... You're really treading on thin ice here....
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Well, I like focus mitts and probably use them more than I used to, but I think maybe 20% of your training, tops, should be on them. Much more than that should be punching and kicking at actual people. I think the mistake with focus mitts is that people use them to the exclusion of almost every other kind of training.
As far as fighting slick people that punch around guards, you just defend yourself in all the other ways besides standing still with your hands up.
I think parrying and countering should be used primarily by long reach fighters.
It's more of a defensive style of boxing and was actually used by bare knuckle boxers.
