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11-19-2012, 12:55 PM
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Bill - I hope you do open a school one day. You are someone I really look up to sir.
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11-19-2012, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KarateFist
this isn't BJJ though, it's MMA and Caio is not a former teammate.
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He was competing under his own name at the last nogi world.
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11-19-2012, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomad Nemesis
getting past the sarcasm
are you trying to assert that kron's bjj is "sport bjj"
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Yes, until he has an MMA match, Vale Tudo or even a challenge match or Dojo storm then yes he is a sport BJJ guy.
Just thought it was silly for Cesar to contradict himself like that.
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11-19-2012, 01:49 PM
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The comments on the FB post were pretty funny too.
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11-19-2012, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KarateFist
Caio is not a former teammate.
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how so?
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11-19-2012, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bjjaz
The comments on the FB post were pretty funny too.
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especially the one that said the Caio was nothing before joining GF. 
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11-19-2012, 02:26 PM
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If I was Cesar, I would be upset but I would understand that Caio has to earn a living. What if this spring boards his career and becomes the main bjj coach for the Jackson camp? I'm assuming UFC money as a coach is much better than Metamoris money.
Does this mentality help or hurt combat sports? On one hand, loyalty is a great quality. On the other, are we holding ourselves back from being a legitimate sport? Imagine if John Harbaugh got mad at Jim for coaching for a rival team.
Also: I'm on board with the group that would like to learn bjj from Cashbill. He's got all the positives of the Cesar camp without the "209" mentality. (No offense intended re: the 209)
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11-19-2012, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lechien
especially the one that said the Caio was nothing before joining GF. |
haha exactly. Caio sucked before...
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11-19-2012, 02:57 PM
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Caio was a world champ before... Nick trained with BJ, Jake trained with AKA and Blackzilla, Rhonda Rousey is training with GF yet they have girls in her weight that fight for GF where she does not.
Caio has his own gym and his own association. He represented it all year, not just no gi worlds (notice the huge CTBJJA patch at Pan ams and worlds).
Its unfortunate that Ceaser kicked him off the team but I think it would have happened eventually
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11-19-2012, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chulo
Can you explain how Cesar betrayed Renzo? Or more frankly, can you explain who the you're talking about.
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So Caesar Gracie never trained anyone (Diaz) to fight anyone trained by Renzo (GSP)?
Personally I think this is all bullshit. At the highest level of competition alot of these boundaries bleed together.
Caeser was training someone to face a Renzo student and that was fine (if I remember correctly before the press conference calamity Caeser was actually attacking Roger Gracie in the media for daring to train with GSP before the Diaz fight that never happened even though GSP had trained with Roger before).
In fact, he managed to claim that Renzo and Roger were betraying him.
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