Nuclearlandmine's journey to detonation V1: I hate douchebags

[Nuclearlandmine]

Originally Posted by Sinister

As a guy who trains boxers, there's very little about modern boxing that translates into the classic positions. I'd rather get a guy who doesn't know anything about fighting and teach him the classic principals from the ground up, then take a seasoned Amateur (or God forbid hard-headed ass Pro) of the modern style and try to instill classic principals into what they do.

You don't learn one thing by learning something else.



lol@you coming bouncing into the frame for the tile exercise video. And people rolling around in the background is kinda of funny as well.

Ahh yes, tile exercise, very ugly. It would appear to me that you have stiff hips. Instead of being able to fold at the hips, you're having to compensate by rotating your upper-body in order to facilitate any movement, which is why it looks like shit.

(BTW, this is how I talk to students even in the Gym.)

The movement should be MINIMAL, very slight fold of the hip. If you look at the original video I posted of Bleu, the way he did it towards the end of the video was correct, but it took him almost a full two minutes to get right. Also, your head should remain still even if there's slight rotation of the torso. In other words, don't turn your face to your right. Until you get this down, you're going to have a lot of problems slipping punches side-to-side and remaining in position to throw anything back that has weight on it. This explains a lot of why you rely mostly on dropping elevation A LOT, or pulling back.

In the sparring, the guy does a very good job of threatening your center line with his lead foot, minimizing your ability to get the outside angle.

I think attempting the tile exercise really opens up a lot of information. Even in this light video it's easy to see that you're very uncomfortable with both lateral movement, and with your balance when throwing punches off of any defensive movement (slipping). This sort of thing is what I like to be able to see in the Gym, because many trainers would just yell at you to do whatever will suffice, to survive. But in utilizing this type of positioning that's not good enough. Instead of merely being equipped to survive, you can strengthen those hips, streamline the movement, and you'll be better-equipped to do more things.

Alright thanks for the feedback Lu. I will try the tile exercise and post up another video again now that i know that IT ISN'T THE MOTION FOR THE CROSS, but rather SHIFT YOUR WEIGHT FROM SIDE TO SIDE. Basically, i did the exercise wrong at the beginning.

And yeah, lateral movement is not ingrained in me yet because it....well, goes against every other common reflexes. But i will try my hardest to get it going.

EDIT: Although, in case of if I really have a stiff hip, what exercises i could try?

[Bay Area]

Originally Posted by Sinister

As a guy who trains boxers, there's very little about modern boxing that translates into the classic positions. I'd rather get a guy who doesn't know anything about fighting and teach him the classic principals from the ground up, then take a seasoned Amateur (or God forbid hard-headed ass Pro) of the modern style and try to instill classic principals into what they do.

You don't learn one thing by learning something else.

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Really. I thought the principles would be the same

[Nuclearlandmine]

Originally Posted by Bay Area

Really. I thought the principles would be the same

If you read Sinister's wall of text in the HANDS UP thread, you'd know how boxing prinicpals became regressed over time and changed completely from what already was.

[Scythegpd**]

Just posted a freaking novel in your "hard sparring" thread.
Take it or leave it, if you disagree with anything I've said there I'm not going to argue the point as I really can't be bothered trying to have a discussion with you, I already know you won't take anything on board that doesn't align with what you want to believe.
So yeah, that's my feedback based on the video you posted, you can either take in on board or ignore it. But if you dislike or disagree with what you read, well it's just b=my honest opinion based on your video.

[Nuclearlandmine]

Originally Posted by Scythegpd

Just posted a freaking novel in your "hard sparring" thread.
Take it or leave it, if you disagree with anything I've said there I'm not going to argue the point as I really can't be bothered trying to have a discussion with you, I already know you won't take anything on board that doesn't align with what you want to believe.
So yeah, that's my feedback based on the video you posted, you can either take in on board or ignore it. But if you dislike or disagree with what you read, well it's just b=my honest opinion based on your video.

Dude, stop. You might critiqued me with good intention, but you are being really condesending and pissy. In fact, you basically bumped a thread about issues and criticism that others' had said before. It was a done deal already. Are you really critique my footage because you want me to get better or you just want to show to other people that your judgment/opinion is superior? From the way you flaunted your training background, it seemed like you are.

Edit: Are you mad from the other thread, might i ask?

[Scythegpd**]

Originally Posted by Nuclearlandmine

Dude, stop. You might critiqued me with good intention, you are being really condesending and pissy. In fact, you basically bumped a thread about issues and criticism that others' had said before. It was a done deal already. Are you really critique my footage because you want me to get better or you just want to show to other people that your judgment/opinion is superior?

1 - I didn't actually bump that thread, it was still on page 1, not even 6 threads down, for christs sake (unless you're referring to the "hard sparring" thread, in which case my reply had greater context in there as it was specifically about that very thread, even referring to particular times in that vid. Wouldn't exactly work in this thread as the time references would make no sense).

2 - Have you actually looked at what I've written in the sparring thread? It's almost 15000 characters and even references specific times in your sparring video. I ask you to show me ONE other person in that thread who has given that level of feedback and analysis on your video. And you think I put in that amount of effort just to try get the better of you as opposed to trying to help you? I could have just said "You're not very good and you're taking shots because you're determined to run before you can walk" but instead I chose to do an in-depth, play-by-play critique. And this is how you're going to "thank" me? Please, tell me, I'll gladly delete my posts here:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/bo...3/index14.html
and will ensure I never provide any feedback again.

3 - For someone who claims to want feedback and gets pissy about others being "douchebags" you seem to have really thin skin and seem to be unable to take anything on board that doesn't align with your world view, your reply, again, proves my point and makes me wonder if I wasted my time. You're happy to make posts when YOU don't agree with what someone else is saying but my goodness, you sure do throw a fit when someone does the same to your posts. There's something called "taking on board feedback", perhaps you should consider it even if you initially disagree with that feedback. You seem to be able to take feedback if you agree with it, give feedback on things you disagree with, but then get worked up when you get feedback you disagree with. Can give it but can't take it.

Again, if you want to be defensive and not take on board anything that you disagree with, just tell me. If you don't feel my feedback in the "hard sparring" thread has any value and it was just a repeat of everyone else, just point it out. I'll gladly delete those posts and put you on my ignore list to ensure I never provide you with any feedback again. I'm trying to help YOU, you just throw your toys out the cot if I say anything that you don't want to hear. And now, after writing a frikken novella and wasting my time on a saturday night (it's almost 4am where I am and I can't sleep so decided to help out), instead of actually checking that post out FIRST, you reply to me acting like a dick and then say "I'm just repeating what others have said"?
You're the one that needs online coaching, not me, if you don't want to hear what I have to say and don't appreciate the effort I put in then just say the word. However I would at least have expected you to READ the post I made before replying ... it would seem that was too much to ask though.


p.s. In the time it took you to reply here there is NO WAY you could have read my entire post in that other thread and checked the links. So don't pretend you did. Yeah, thanks for that.
p.p.s. Yes, this post has been edited a few times to try and make it more civil versus it's initial drafts. Your lack of appreciation is astounding, for all the thanks I got I may as well have been watching Walking Dead reruns or something instead of putting in a ton of effort for you just be a douche in your reply. Waste of my goddamn time.

[Nuclearlandmine]

Originally Posted by Scythegpd

1 - I didn't actually bump that thread, it was still on page 1, not even 6 threads down, for christs sake. And your reply in that thread proved my point, disinterested in something that doesn't align with what you WANT to believe, and only cherry-picking the points that you think you can refute, ignoring anything else (remember, you didn't HAVE to reply to my post in the "Hands up" thread either, you chose to. And even when you did you only bothered with around 1/3 of my post, which were the parts that didn't fit with your view, so you cherry-picked those and ignored the majority of the rest, in the process often missing the point due to partial quoting. Compare the bolded bit to the unbolded bit. But hey, it's fine for YOU to reply and act all pissy but god forbid someone else does. Can dish it out but can't take it it would seem).
2 - Have you actually looked at what I've written in the sparring thread? It's almost 15000 characters and even references specific times in your sparring video. I ask you to show me ONE other person in that thread who has given that level of feedback and analysis on your video. And you think I put in that amount of effort just to try get the better of you as opposed to trying to help you? If this is how you're going to "thank" me then please, tell me, I'll delete gladly delete my posts here:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f11/bo...3/index14.html
and will ensure I never provide any feedback again.
3 - For someone who claims to want feedback and gets pissy about others being "douchebags" you seem to have really thin skin and seem to be unable to take anything on board that doesn't align with your world view. your reply, again, proves my point and makes me wonder if I wasted my time. You're happy to make posts when YOU don't agree with what someone else is saying but my goodness, you sure do throw a fit when someone does the same to your posts. There's something called "taking on board feedback", perhaps you should consider it even if you initially disagree with that feedback.

Again, if you want to be a defensive ass-hat and not take on board anything that you disagree with, just tell me. If you don't feel my feedback in the "hard sparring" thread has any value, just point it out. If you don't want to take anything on board that doesn't align with what you want to believe then just highlight that to me. I'll gladly delete those posts and put you on my ignore list to ensure I never provide you with any feedback again. I'm trying to help YOU, you just throw your toys out the cot if I say anything that you don't want to hear. And now, after writing a frikken novella, wasting my time on a saturday night (it's almost 4am where I am and I can't sleep so decided to help out), instead of actually checking that post out FIRST, you reply to me acting like a dick.
You're the one that needs online coaching, not me, if you don't want to hear what I have to say and don't appreciate the effort I put in then just say the work. However I would at least have expected you to READ the post I made before replying ... it would seem that too much to ask.

Firstly, nobody have touched that thread for a few days until you bumped it up.

Secondly, i have problems because of the way you deliver your critiques and how some of your critiques basically rehashed other people's old critiques. You claimed to followed all of my recent posting, but did you actually read all of my threads from the beginning to now? If you do, you'd know why i can be so defensive at times. Read your critiques objectively for once. Then get back to me about how i am being a defensive asshat.

Thirdly, are you seriously telling me that i'm cherry picking arguments? I read your post, and the part i replied is the crust of your argument and goes against some of the history of the art. The rest is basically your own opinion, which i wouldn't bother to refute because it is personal.

Fourthly, while i appreciate your time spent on writing that novella, i have a hard time reading it without being objective because it seemed that you are trying your hardest to prove your knowledge is superior. You might not mean that, but the way you critiques with the whole of your posts seemed like you are. Again, read it objectively, especially the part of your personal opinions about me. This goes back to the second point, while you claimed that i didn't read it as a whole, did you bother following my threads from the first thread till now? Because some of the thing you are doing is basically raise dead arguments that had either done with, or i already elaborated with. Look at when i reply to Pugillistic or some other guys nicely, because they wasn't trying their best to make it like they are superior than me and i need to followed them else i will die.

[Scythegpd**]

Originally Posted by Nuclearlandmine

Firstly, nobody have touched that thread for a few days until you bumped it up.

Secondly, i have problems because of the way you deliver your critiques and how some of your critiques basically rehashed other people's old critiques. You claimed to followed all of my recent posting, but did you actually read all of my threads from the beginning to now? If you do, you'd know why i can be so defensive at times. Read your critiques objectively for once. Then get back to me about how i am being a defensive asshat.

Thirdly, are you seriously telling me that i'm cherry picking arguments? I read your post, and the part i replied is the crust of your argument and goes against some of the history of the art. The rest is basically your own opinion, which i wouldn't bother to refute because it is personal.

Fourthly, while i appreciate your time spent on writing that novella, i have a hard time reading it without being objective because it seemed that you are trying your hardest to prove your knowledge is superior. You might not mean that, but the way you critiques with the whole of your posts seemed like you are. Again, read it objectively, especially the part of your personal opinions about me. This goes back to the second point, while you claimed that i didn't read it as a whole, did you bother following my threads from the first thread till now? Because some of the thing you are doing is basically raise dead arguments that had done with.

I tried to edit my post before you quoted it, because I was pissed off at wasting my time when writing my initial reply, because there was NO WAY you could have read my "hard sparring" post in the time in which you replied.

Many people don't like my writing (or talking style) because my trait is naturally cold, hard and clinical, it's just how I am. If you don't like it you don't have to reply to my posts.

A thanks for that play-by-play (which nobody else bothered to do) would have been nice but because you don't like the way I write, hey lets just act like a douche instead. Yeah, I might have repeated some stuff but that's because I was primarily going between the video and openoffice, as opposed to reading 16 pages and making notes of what had and hadn't been said. I thought that was the thread purpose, "critique my video", not "audit the thread". But yeah, apparently, when I could have just said "You're shit, your defence isn't working very well, told you so" I'm apparently going to write 15000 characters to "prove I'm better than you"? I don't know if you're sad enough to do that but I sure are hell aren't.
Not to mention that in some points I noted that you were making the same mistakes I make and I'm working on trying to improve. Pretty weird way to "prove" I'm better than you.

Essentially what you're saying to me is "I don't like how you write, I don't like what you write, I don't like when you disagree with me, I don't appreciate your feedback so fuck off".
Don't worry, for all the appreciation you've shown after all my effort in the "hard sparring" reply your message has been received loud and clear.

p.s. I never claimed to follow ALL of your recent posting. I claimed to follow ENOUGH of your recent posting to be able to predict a reply. Turns outs, unfortunately, I was spot on. Pretty sure I know what the reply to this is going to be too.

[DivineComedy]

Awwwhhh shitttttt. Do I need to get out the lawn chair for this firework?

[Scythegpd**]

Originally Posted by DivineComedy

Awwwhhh shitttttt. Do I need to get out the lawn chair for this firework?

Nah man, it's cool, I'm done replying to this guy.
Rather spend my time focussing on people who actually appreciate it when you try and give them advice and help them out (especially when they specifically ask for it). Can't be arsed helping people who, instead of saying thanks, just give you shit. I'm sure I can find other ways to waste my time.