Wow- what is the world coming to . . .

[railcorp]

Originally Posted by Bear Man

I'm more appalled at the following of said movie.

#Winning#

[Fenderson]

Originally Posted by spannered

Statistically, yeah, you are pretty unlikely to get shot up by a madman outside a cinema.

But the fact that this nearly happened again so quickly is alarming. NO ONE SHOULD be excecuted in public by a mass killer, despite 'statistically' how unlikely it is. Shit is happening basically monthly in the US. I'm sure the families of the Joker slaughter aren't throwing there arms up with the attitude that they were just 'unlucky.

I don't want to start a debate about this, but it's quite astonishing how so many gun massacres happen in the US without prompting a review of gun laws. Apparently this maniac was identified as having mental issues, but was still able to buy guns and ammo.

We had one gun massacre in Australia years ago, and semi-autos were banned and gun laws tightened to extremes. If you've got a criminal/psychiatric history, you will never be able to hold a licence. Sourcing a weapon is pretty fucking difficult and crazy fucks are having a hard time shooting up places because of it, thank Christ.

The right to 'bear arms' gives everyone, maniacs included, the opportunity. Aussies seem to function just fine without a gun in our homes or back pocket.

Guns will never be taken from the Americans, they are completely obsessed with them. You'd have more luck trying to ban pasta in Italy.

[railcorp]

Originally Posted by Fenderson

Guns will never be taken from the Americans, they are completely obsessed with them. You'd have more luck trying to ban pasta in Italy.

Pretty much ^

[cwied21]

Yeah it's been posted already

[spannered]

Originally Posted by Fenderson

Guns will never be taken from the Americans, they are completely obsessed with them. You'd have more luck trying to ban pasta in Italy.

You have to wonder though: at what point does the average American think that these sorts of atrocities are outweighed by the general notion that people NEED guns to protect themselves?

Is it not a perpetual cycle? Why not ban guns so that you don't need to pack heat to protect yourself from the next gun nut?

I was in North America earlier this year and couldn't believe that you could walk into a shop and buy a gun and a bottle of Jack in the same place. They sell guns in our equivalent of K-Mart.

I think Brendan Vera summed it up perfectly when I met him at a seminar he was holding at my old gym:

Brandon: "Sure, I love Australia, but your gun laws suck. You can't get guns at all here!"
Me: "You can, but you have to get a licence and it involves a vigorous ID and history check."
Brandon: "I want my guns now! Everyone needs guns!"

Vera is my favourite fighter now--awesome guy, funny as hell and a generally humble & likable fighter--but I think this sums up the average American. There's this exposure to guns and idea that they're safe and necessary; despite the fact that they are horridly prevalent, gun shot homicides are out of control and they are easily accessible.

[fingercuffs]

Originally Posted by Fenderson

Guns will never be taken from the Americans, they are completely obsessed with them. You'd have more luck trying to ban pasta in Italy.

My other half and I had a hearty lol at that.

[new_mexico1]

Originally Posted by spannered

Why not ban guns so that you don't need to pack heat to protect yourself from the next gun nut?

Lol at getting the toothpaste back into the tube

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by spannered

You have to wonder though: at what point does the average American think that these sorts of atrocities are outweighed by the general notion that people NEED guns to protect themselves?

Is it not a perpetual cycle? Why not ban guns so that you don't need to pack heat to protect yourself from the next gun nut?

I was in North America earlier this year and couldn't believe that you could walk into a shop and buy a gun and a bottle of Jack in the same place. They sell guns in our equivalent of K-Mart.

I think Brendan Vera summed it up perfectly when I met him at a seminar he was holding at my old gym:

Brandon: "Sure, I love Australia, but your gun laws suck. You can't get guns at all here!"
Me: "You can, but you have to get a licence and it involves a vigorous ID and history check."
Brandon: "I want my guns now! Everyone needs guns!"

Vera is my favourite fighter now--awesome guy, funny as hell and a generally humble & likable fighter--but I think this sums up the average American. There's this exposure to guns and idea that they're safe and necessary; despite the fact that they are horridly prevalent, gun shot homicides are out of control and they are easily accessible.

It is the price of freedom from tyranny sir.

[spannered]

Originally Posted by new_mexico1

Lol at getting the toothpaste back into the tube

For every person that may die as a result of not protecting themselves with a weapon in the short term, it will save a million who will have died from guns that would otherwise be available.

Originally Posted by Sohei

It is the price of freedom from tyranny sir.

Well I'm just as free as those from the 'land of the free' and I have a far less chance of getting shot to death.

[ufcfan4]

Originally Posted by GordoBarraBJJ

perhaps not but it's easier nowadays to fuck up more people in less time.

exactly true. fuck this asshole- thank God his mom had some sense. a lot of times you see these parents playing the "i didn't have a clue" card.