my muay thai master was telling me you "put out the cigarette with your lead foot in boxing. but mt because of the leg kick you dont pivot and instead just use your hips." He also had me throw hooks like I'm holding a bear mug as opposed to the standard close range hook in boxing- due to the kicking range. All in all it reminded quite a bit of Bas ruttens striking video
Behold the goofiest left hook in Muay Thai. First one at about 2:15, but watch the whole thing to admire the beauty of his quasi-legal throws.
Edit: Just watched your video. Holy shit. Anyone who says old school boxing technique is not applicable to Muay Thai needs to view that. Look how he holds himself, how he throws his short overhand right, and how he throws his hooks. That is seriously reminiscent of a lot of old school boxing, with brutal knees mixed in. Thanks for the post!
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It's a weird ass swing of a punch, but he's really really effective with it. It's one of Pajonsuk's best counters, and he's got excellent kicks as well. He's a dangerous guy, for sure.
I've heard before that Muay Thai, before the influence of western boxing, made use of straight punches and open-handed swings instead of hooks. It almost looks like that's what Pajonsuk is doing. Without the glove he'd probably break his hand because he holds his first vertically rather than horizontally. But open handed I could see that kind of swinging punch work just the way it does for him.
Although--hang on a sec. The one that gets the knockdown at 2:35 looks like he connects with a horizontal first-knuckle landing. So maybe there's better technique to this than I thought!
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It's a weird ass swing of a punch, but he's really really effective with it. It's one of Pajonsuk's best counters, and he's got excellent kicks as well. He's a dangerous guy, for sure.
I've heard before that Muay Thai, before the influence of western boxing, made use of straight punches and open-handed swings instead of hooks. It almost looks like that's what Pajonsuk is doing. Without the glove he'd probably break his hand because he holds his first vertically rather than horizontally. But open handed I could see that kind of swinging punch work just the way it does for him.
I like slapping people just because it is more natural and useful to keep your hand their after the hit, instead of snapping it back. Basically, if they block the slap, you are winning at trapping range and can shove their arm into their face.
right on man.Saensak actually fought as a pro in western boxing rules later on in the late 70s.
I love both boxing and muay thai aswell and hope to incorporate them both in my stand up. He told me I can still turn more to the side into my punches but I just have to make sure to jump out of range as not to eat leg kicks.
Behold the goofiest left hook in Muay Thai. First one at about 2:15, but watch the whole thing to admire the beauty of his quasi-legal throws.
Edit: Just watched your video. Holy shit. Anyone who says old school boxing technique is not applicable to Muay Thai needs to view that. Look how he holds himself, how he throws his short overhand right, and how he throws his hooks. That is seriously reminiscent of a lot of old school boxing, with brutal knees mixed in. Thanks for the post!
The guy he's fighting at 2:55 is Chin, I trained with him in Koh Phanang. Great trainer.
Great video. You weren't kidding about the "quasi-legal" throws!
The guy he's fighting at 2:55 is Chin, I trained with him in Koh Phanang. Great trainer.
Great video. You weren't kidding about the "quasi-legal" throws!
Best throws I've seen in Muay Thai. I love the string of yellow cards at the end of that highlight.
But hey, sorry for derailing your thread, Memory! Back on topic. I've always been taught to rotate the leg, but I've never trained with an old-school Thai trainer. In any case, I definitely think that the hip action is more important than the feet. The turning of the feet (and knees) just helps facilitate greater hip rotation. And the Thai style (or at least the style of guys like Anuwat, Pornsaneh, and Bovy) emphasizes shoulder rotation even more so than the hips.
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Behold the goofiest left hook in Muay Thai. First one at about 2:15, but watch the whole thing to admire the beauty of his quasi-legal throws.
The amplitude he gets on those throws is ridiculous. Don't know what the throw is termed in MT but it really looks like a Polish throw from wrestling
Skip to 1:18 to see it.
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We've seen those types of swinging, long, roundabout hooks in Boxing as well. James Toney when throwing to the body come to mind. And interesting to note that in TS's video, whenever he goes for that overhand, he resets and widens his stance to increase punching power.
