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Old 11-16-2012, 12:53 AM   #101
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Did you forget that it takes less than a second to adjust your stance?

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Old 11-16-2012, 12:56 AM   #102
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That picture is exactly what I said you were doing, your feet are almost completely in line. Lead leg completely exposed to singles and leg kicks.

Yes disciplus, if you are saying that mma's strikers use the above stances, and not the stance that I described(did you even read that post?) then I do contest that. Look no further than Anderson Silva to see that his stance is very close to the one I described. Feet running on parallel lines a little wider than shoulder with, toes facing more or less to the front on the balls of his feet, lead hand in front of the chin, power hand behind, shoulders slightly canted. He doesn't stand on a balance beam, his shoulders arent nearly completely sideways.

Shoulders turned to the side makes you susceptible to being taken down because in order for you to stand like that your feet almost have to be in line. Also having your shoulders sideways makes it very difficult to grab under hooks unless your grabbing just the one in which case your feet are in line and good luck trying not to be taken down with one under hook standing sideways.
You're completely right, bro. There's only one proven way to fight under MMA rules. All the best fighters fight using a particular blueprint. Thanks for enlightening me.

What's your standup base?

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:03 AM   #103
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That picture is exactly what I said you were doing, your feet are almost completely in line. Lead leg completely exposed to singles and leg kicks.

Yes disciplus, if you are saying that mma's strikers use the above stances, and not the stance that I described(did you even read that post?) then I do contest that. Look no further than Anderson Silva to see that his stance is very close to the one I described. Feet running on parallel lines a little wider than shoulder with, toes facing more or less to the front on the balls of his feet, lead hand in front of the chin, power hand behind, shoulders slightly canted. He doesn't stand on a balance beam, his shoulders arent nearly completely sideways.

Shoulders turned to the side makes you susceptible to being taken down because in order for you to stand like that your feet almost have to be in line. Also having your shoulders sideways makes it very difficult to grab under hooks unless your grabbing just the one in which case your feet are in line and good luck trying not to be taken down with one under hook standing sideways.
There are so many wrong things about this post that i cannot even wrap my head around it. You still havent check out all of my threads, have you? Because if you have done it, most if not ALL of your concerns and misconception were answerd to undead.

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:17 AM   #104
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You're completely right, bro. There's only one proven way to fight under MMA rules. All the best fighters fight using a particular blueprint. Thanks for enlightening me.

What's your standup base?
You said all the best strikers in mma do not use the stance I described, so I provided an example of arguably the best striker in mma using the exact stance I described, whats your rebuttal? Also maybe you can provide me with an example of a great mma striker that uses the stance pictured in nukes post.

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:18 AM   #105
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There are so many wrong things about this post that i cannot even wrap my head around it. You still havent check out all of my threads, have you? Because if you have done it, most if not ALL of your concerns and misconception were answerd to undead.
Ok tell me exactly whats wrong with whats in my post.

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:29 AM   #106
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Ok tell me exactly whats wrong with whats in my post.
I dont need to and i dont want to. It is getting tiresome to reply to people like you. Every time my threads come up there are always people like you who doesnt bother to either read the warning or read the previous threads even at my insistence.

So just fucking do it, and then get back to me. Until then you are just someone who doesnt have any idea what am i doing yet still think that it is wrong just because it is not what "most" fighters and yourself do.

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:39 AM   #107
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I dont need to and i dont want to. It is getting tiresome to reply to people like you. Every time my threads come up there are always people like you who doesnt bother to either read the warning or read the previous threads even at my insistence.

So just fucking do it, and then get back to me. Until then you are just someone who doesnt have any idea what am i doing yet still think that it is wrong just because it is not what "most" fighters and yourself do.
Have I advised you to put your hands up in this thread? No I haven't, I've only pointed out other things that I think may help as you said you want to fight in mma and I have only trained specifically for mma bouts. This isn't personal dude

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Have I advised you to put your hands up in this thread? No I haven't, I've only pointed out other things that I think may help as you said you want to fight in mma and I have only trained specifically for mma bouts. This isn't personal dude
If you havent noticed, i said EITHER NOT READ THE WARNING OR READ THE PREVIOUS THREADS. I'm sick and tired of having the same arguments in my threads over and over again just because of people cant afford some time to check if it is already addressed or not

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Old 11-16-2012, 02:15 AM   #109
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You said all the best strikers in mma do not use the stance I described, so I provided an example of arguably the best striker in mma using the exact stance I described, whats your rebuttal? Also maybe you can provide me with an example of a great mma striker that uses the stance pictured in nukes post.
You posted pictures of BJ Penn standing in a completely different way to the stance you described.



Observe the inward turn of his lead foot, the blading of the shoulders for defensive purposes, the heel of the rear foot more or less in line with the toes of the lead.

And BJ is not the greatest striker in MMA. For his sport he's a competent boxer.

We all know how bad this guy sucks:



Or this idiot:



Or this clown:



Can you say "idiot"? That guy must get out-wrestled and leg kicked to oblivion every fight!

Again, what's your standup base?

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Old 11-16-2012, 03:24 AM   #110
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You posted pictures of BJ Penn standing in a completely different way to the stance you described.



Observe the inward turn of his lead foot, the blading of the shoulders for defensive purposes, the heel of the rear foot more or less in line with the toes of the lead.

And BJ is not the greatest striker in MMA. For his sport he's a competent boxer.

We all know how bad this guy sucks:



Or this idiot:



Or this clown:



Can you say "idiot"? That guy must get out-wrestled and leg kicked to oblivion every fight!

Again, what's your standup base?
Funny, I already said bj penn has a more bladed stance than most mma fighters. And whats up with the other gifs? Save for the third gif down, red and white trunks(im on my phone so I can't tell who that is) every one of those fighters is using a modified boxing stance as I have already described.

So 7 out of 9 mma fighters(one being arguably the best striker in mma) That have been referenced are using the modified boxing stance. Should we keep going? Or are you finally getting the idea that while some fighters use a more boxing like stance with success, the overwhelming majority use the modified boxing stance.

I don't have a "striking base." All my experience comes from an mma gym that has been producing competitive fighters since 99. I have been honest about my fighting experience so why don't you go ahead and tell me about your fighting experience?

Any pro bouts? Any amateur bouts? How about just striking experience, tell me about that? What about your grappling experience I'd like to hear more. Even more than that I would like to know what experience you have in combining striking and grappling and your thoughts as to why a bladed stance doesn't make the transition from striking to grappling more difficult as you claim becaise I have already given two examples of problems you may run into defending takes downs from a bladed stance. Or why don't we just start with how long have you been involved in combat sports period?

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