Dana White says Gsp is the second greatest#2 fighter of all time

[kodiijones]

he is definitely behind Fedor and AS

no suprise Dana would say this

[oshkosh77]

Fedor, AS, GSP, Aldo......JBJ
how can JB be consider for such a high ranking at the start of his career, the jury is still out.
Fedor fought and won, old school
AS, fights like he is in the matrix
GSP, some say he just fights to win, yes and his opponents fight not to lose, they are still wins
Aldo, just incredible but doesn't get the marketing

lets wait till Jones has 20 fights before we start placing him on the pedestal, with time he will surpass all with the exception of AS

[Natman2939]

Originally Posted by Toxxus

The quality of the fights is a big factor as well. Running 5-6 consecutive fights to decision vs. annihilating 5-6 guys in multiple weight classes like someone who'd give Neo a run for his money is much more impressive.

If I were walking into an auditorium and they told me Silva was fighting on one side and GSP was fighting on the other there's no question which fight I'd go to watch. GSP's incredible skills and athleticism far exceed his entertainment value since he went into safety-first mode.

I really, really hope to see him and Condit both engage with a level of aggression that will entertain the fans and help reinvigorate the PPV numbers.

You're talking about who's the more entertaining fighter.

Being the better fighter, and being the more entertaining fighter are not necessarily the same thing.

The better fighter out of two men has a very clear definition to me: Which one of them is harder to beat?

Despite going to decision so often, GSP has appeared almost impossible to beat. For the whole 25 minutes, his opponents have been helpless, losing every round without doing a damn thing.

It's sort of like floyd mayweather, he may go to decision a lot, but in those decisions, he comes out without even a scratch on him. He looks like he just did a light cardio workout at the gym.

[theNatOr]

Originally Posted by oshkosh77

Fedor, AS, GSP, Aldo......JBJ
how can JB be consider for such a high ranking at the start of his career, the jury is still out.
Fedor fought and won, old school
AS, fights like he is in the matrix
GSP, some say he just fights to win, yes and his opponents fight not to lose, they are still wins
Aldo, just incredible but doesn't get the marketing

lets wait till Jones has 20 fights before we start placing him on the pedestal, with time he will surpass all with the exception of AS

Why won't Jones surpass Anderson? That shit crazyyyy. Jones has already faced the who is who of this time especially LHW. Anderson does not have opponents as impressive as Jones has beaten. Anderson lost a couple of times to random fighters, Jones is like 18-0, come on man, don't be blind.

If Jones gets five more wins against guys like the ones he recently fought you can officially name him the greatest of all time.

Jones has totally dominated the SH#T out of all his opponents too, Anderson got totally dominated by Chael fucking Sonnen man.

Just be honest. Jones is already pretty darn close to Anderson at this point in time.

[el tito]

Originally Posted by whatteheff

Yeah, Andy sure has faced a murderer's row when it comes to his UFC run..

Andy also has a few losses to "glorified journeymen" as you put it, while Fedor only lost to top competition.



The only person to rock Fedor was Fujita (I mean, prior to his losses.) Cro-cop didn't, AA didn't, and Nog didn't come close to subbing him either. Have you even watched his fights..?

And no, Aldo's run or skillset is not on par with Fedor's. To see a 230lb "tubby" guy move as quickly and gracefully the way Fedor did was something magical. It's expected of someone half his size. The fact Aldo has rarely been in trouble says more about his competition than it does about his skills. (Same is true for Andy.)

i thought the pride fanboys had become extinct by now. fedor in no way shape or form beats gsp on the g.o.a.t. list. gsp RAGDOLLS the #2 guy consistently and makes fighters just below him in the division look like they belong in kotc. fedor on the other hand, almost gets kimura'd by mark hunt and is today fighting cans somewhere and only 35 years old. i'm sorry to break the news to you.. but that isn't even old for a heavyweight.

[Oogie Sharp]

Originally Posted by Lostcow

I'm not a fan of putting somebody like Jones who is still early in his career on a GOAT list. GSP and Silva are at a place where if they suddenly started losing, they would still have strong legacies. But say Jones started tapering down already, or he moved up to HW and did poorly, then went back down to LHW and was behind the game. These are big what ifs that are very unlikely, but doing so would push him far from GOAT status. GOAT should be a discussion for near the end of, or at the end of career fighters.

I agree, that's why I didn't think Aldo belonged on the list (yet). I mean how many UFC fights has he had?

Jones also falls into that category but I put him on the list because he's a 1 in a million exception to the rule.

(IMO) so spectacular are his wins, against such TOP NOTCH competition, and such dominating wins over that spectacular competition - I just wanted to get him in there on the list - because I think he'll be # 1 in the next few years and stay that way forever.

I mean Silva is definitely # 1, has the historical accomplishments to his credit, but let's look at the 2 currently...

Jones - spectacular wins over top-notch competition, dominating victories. About to go up to HW and win the HW championship and kick ass in that division fighting all the best HWs.

Silva - Looking absolutely spectacular kicking bad white fighters asses and (the UFC having him) avoiding black fighters like the plague. Now the UFC are having him look to go down in weight class and challenge WWs. I've never heard of this, especially coming from a boxing fan. Like Tyson wiping out the HW division and going down and challenging the LHWs. Fucking ridiculous.

If that scenario above plays out, you'd HAVE to give Jones # 1 in a few years time (say after he's beaten all the serious top HWs).

You'd have to.

[el tito]

Originally Posted by Oogie Sharp

I agree, that's why I didn't think Aldo belonged on the list (yet). I mean how many UFC fights has he had?

Jones also falls into that category but I put him on the list because he's a 1 in a million exception to the rule.

(IMO) so spectacular are his wins, against such TOP NOTCH competition, and such dominating wins over that spectacular competition - I just wanted to get him in there on the list - because I think he'll be # 1 in the next few years and stay that way forever.

I mean Silva is definitely # 1, has the historical accomplishments to his credit, but let's look at the 2 currently...

Jones - spectacular wins over top-notch competition, dominating victories. About to go up to HW and win the HW championship and kick ass in that division fighting all the best HWs.

Silva - Looking absolutely spectacular kicking bad white fighters asses and (the UFC having him) avoiding black fighters like the plague. Now the UFC are having him look to go down in weight class and challenge WWs. I've never heard of this, especially coming from a boxing fan. Like Tyson wiping out the HW division and going down and challenging the LHWs. Fucking ridiculous.

If that scenario above plays out, you'd HAVE to give Jones # 1 in a few years time (say after he's beaten all the serious top HWs).

You'd have to.

why the hell are you bringing race into this?

[Oogie Sharp]

Originally Posted by el tito

why the hell are you bringing race into this?

Why the hell are you using that av?