Jon fitch nutrition. 90 g protein?

[Nemesis48]

You only need .6 to 1 g of protein per lb of LEAN MUSCLE MASS, not total weight. You can use DXA or hydrostatic weighing to get your body comp to figure out how much protein you need.

[Chuck Bass**]

Originally Posted by hardheart

My point was the diet led to the MCL or at the very least contributed.

In other news Richardson Franklin got knocked for eating meat.

[cooks1]

Originally Posted by hardheart

If you don't think a major change to an athlete's diet is directly related to athletic performance, and want to cite ergo hoc ad propter hoc as the logical fallacy behind that, go ahead. You're basically showing that you're too stupid to understand what an actual logical fallacy is and also too stupid to accept that diet & nutrition are probably the biggest factor to an athletes health.

There are a lot of dominos between going vegan and getting KTFO by Hendricks, but the long and short of it is that Fitch went Vegan and fell off the map. I'm really interested to see if he's still vegan after the Eric Silva fight. He could be used as a bench mark of sorts. Maybe, if you go vegan, try to not compete for a year.

While I'm sure there could be a lot of other factors, Fitch's vegan experiment does run parallel to his poor performances and ass whoopings. That does stand out.

Though admittedly not an expert on veganism or nutrition, from what I have read it is, while not impossible, just very difficult to get all the different AA's you need strictly on a vegan diet. You have to eat such a tremendous quantity of so many different fruits, vegetables, legumes, nuts etc. It would be exceptionally difficult for all but the most devoted eaters. And to have to figure all that out while also training full time- I could definitely see how there would be issues with that.

[EddieLovesYou]

Originally Posted by cooks1

Though admittedly not an expert on veganism or nutrition, from what I have read it is, while not impossible, just very difficult to get all the different AA's you need strictly on a vegan diet. You have to eat such a tremendous quantity of so many different fruits, vegetables, legumes, nuts etc. It would be exceptionally difficult for all but the most devoted eaters. And to have to figure all that out while also training full time- I could definitely see how there would be issues with that.

Yeah it's super difficult to put beans in a tortilla, eat lentils and rice together, or smear peanut butter on a piece of whole wheat bread.

[cooks1]

Originally Posted by EddieLovesYou

Yeah it's super difficult to put beans in a tortilla, eat lentils and rice together, or smear peanut butter on a piece of whole wheat bread.

This is my exact point nimrod. Even if you ate ALL of these combinations together at the same meal, you would still not come close to getting the adequate proportion of ALL 9 essential amino acids that comprise the complete protein you generally find in animal proteins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein

Pretty much every food contains some trace of these. But to get the complete array that you would find in an animal protein, you would need to eat everything you mentioned above, along with an array of sprouts, greens, nuts, vegetables, and fruits, in pretty large quantities. And I am not talking about a spinach salad with some carrats, oh no, I am talking like 12-15 different vegetables, fruits, sprouts, nuts, etc.

This of course is possible, but it is very difficult, and it would need to be done daily.

Or you could eat a piece of chicken.

I am not dogging veggies, pulses, freuits, etc.. mind you. I think they are great and I eat a lot of them. They are just not great protein sources.

[WandyWiolentFan]

I'm actually more surprised how little food he eats.

[EddieLovesYou]

Originally Posted by cooks1

This is my exact point nimrod. Even if you ate ALL of these combinations together at the same meal, you would still not come close to getting the adequate proportion of ALL 9 essential amino acids that comprise the complete protein you generally find in animal proteins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein

Pretty much every food contains some trace of these. But to get the complete array that you would find in an animal protein, you would need to eat everything you mentioned above, along with an array of sprouts, greens, nuts, vegetables, and fruits, in pretty large quantities. And I am not talking about a spinach salad with some carrats, oh no, I am talking like 12-15 different vegetables, fruits, sprouts, nuts, etc.

This of course is possible, but it is very difficult, and it would need to be done daily.

Or you could eat a piece of chicken.

I am not dogging veggies, pulses, freuits, etc.. mind you. I think they are great and I eat a lot of them. They are just not great protein sources.

Dude you need to read your own link.

[cooks1]

Originally Posted by EddieLovesYou

Dude you need to read your own link.

OK, show me the AA breakdowns of any of the combinations you mentioned in your post, and how they combine to give you a complete protein.

[lts5025]

Originally Posted by cooks1

OK, show me the AA breakdowns of any of the combinations you mentioned in your post, and how they combine to give you a complete protein.

Chicken Breast, roasted 54g (just over 1/3 cup)

16.7 g protein
89.7 kCal

Amino Acids (in mg)

Tryptophan 197
Threonine 712
Isoleucine 890
Leucine 1265
Lysine 1432
Methionine 467
Cystine 216
Phenylalanine 669
Tyrosine 569
Valine 837
Arginine 1017
Histidine 523
Alanine 920
Aspartic acid 1503
Glutamic acid 2525
Glycine 828
Proline 693
Serine 580




1 cup Pinto beans & 1 cup brown rice

16.7 g protein
422 kCal

Amino Acids (in mg)

Tryptophan 203.4
Threonine 677
Isoleucine 727
Leucine 1348
Lysine 995
Methionine 291
Cystine 187.5
Phenylalanine 890
Tyrosine 515
Valine 906
Arginine 1107
Histidine 453
Alanine 784
Aspartic acid 1883
Glutamic acid 2807
Glycine 704
Proline 730
Serine 895

[EddieLovesYou]

Based on 1 slice of bread with 1/4c peanut butter on it:

AA:                               	Total: 19.6g	Total per 1g:	Recommended:
			
			
Tryptophan                          	167.9149923	8.567091442	7
Threonine                         	370.6553323	18.91098634	27
Isoleucine                          	441.0278207	22.50141942	25
Leucine                          	1068.408037	54.51061414	55
Lysine                               	467.8315301	23.86895562	51
Methionine+Cystine                	367.2608964	18.73780084	25
Phenylalenine+Tyrosine               	1385.486553	70.68808946	47
Valine                                 	556.8918083	28.41284736	32
Histidine                             	383.3335394	19.55783364	18