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Old 11-13-2012, 04:43 PM   #61
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ELO is horrible. Remember when Ricco Rodriguez was a top ten HW on ELO in 2010 because he beat a bunch of cans in a row and then got squashed by a UFC lhw reject?

ELO is highly flawed and used for people that like big number records without regards to strength of competition and not needed to prove anything for Fedor. Fedor is the best hw and you don't need a joke site like Elo to prove it.

Shinya Aoki is still a top 3 LW there. The whole thing is really just laughable.
the only thing laughable is when you criticize something you clearly don't understand

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Old 11-13-2012, 04:46 PM   #62
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I really don't get the double standards when it comes to Fedor's competition. While he fought several low tier fighters, the same could apply for Anderson Silva:

1) Outright low tier:

10-13 Daiju Takase (loss)
Ryo Chonan (loss)
4-13 Alexander Otsuka
3-10 Waldir dos Anjos
11-12 Curtis Stout

2) Overmatched/Undersized:

LWs
Camoes
Azeredo (loss)
9-14 Fontinelle
2-4 Pinheiro
Kato
Sakurai (small WW that later became a LW)

WWs

0-1 Barreto
16-14 Newton
Albuquerque 0-3
Carneiro

Mid/low tier in the UFC:

15-7 Stephan Bonnar
James Irvin
Patrick Cote
13-5 Thales Leites
10-6 Travis Lutter
Chris Leben


I have no trouble with people claiming Silva is the GOAT, but to bring Fedor's competition to discredit him is a bit hypocrital. Fedor arguably fought better competition than Silva, and in a far more dangerous division. And dare i say: fighting Nogueira x2 and Mirko Cro-crop in Pride is far more dangerous than anything Silva has faced in his entire career.

The rest of the top fighters Fedor faced were mostly ex-champions (Sylvia, Arlovski, Coleman, Randleman) or decorated fighters (Herring, Arona, Babalu, Hunt (k1), Schilt (k1)) while the rest of the top fighters Silva fought were just mid level guys with little or no major accomplishments (Sonnen, Marquardt, Okami, Maia) with the exception of Franklin, Vitor, and Henderson which could be considered the best Silva has fought.
excellent point

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:35 PM   #63
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Fedor is the GOAT. Fedor is greater than the great Anderson Silva.

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:40 PM   #64
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:20 PM   #65
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How is this guy not bant yet?

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Old 11-14-2012, 03:29 AM   #66
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no idea lol

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Old 11-14-2012, 06:57 AM   #67
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This guy has some advanced trolling techniques.

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Old 11-14-2012, 06:59 AM   #68
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btw do u post on the UG?

just wondering, u sound familiar
Considering the mental diarrhea you post, it's no wonder you get plenty of reactions like that.

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Old 11-14-2012, 07:57 AM   #69
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love fedor and respect his decision to retire. the guy still has it. he just needs different gameplans for different opponents. hate to make excuses for any fighter but lack of gameplanning and patience can be attribute to his losses.

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have fedor train with other pro mma fighters who can really push him during training and coach him during fights n we'll see him getting more wins against quality opponents .

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