Boxer tests his chin in mma ;-)

[consortium11]

Originally Posted by Still Holdin

Can you suggest a bout with Wladamir in the last 3 years that you would reccomend for a boxing nub?

None of his recent bouts have been incredibly scintillating, mainly due to a combination of his methodical style and generally being vastly superior to his opponents.

The bouts with Samuel Peter and Eddie Chambers probably show him at his best; he uses his jab and straight to break down his opposition while controlling distance to prevent them landing (and later in the fight even throwing) anything in return. Two good opponents (although both are fairly flawed) both picked apart and stopped late.

The Mormeck bout is probably the quickest way to see what he does, albeit against an old, past his best and undersized opponent.

He's also fight tomorrow night against Mariusz Wach. Wach doesn't have the deepest of records but he's looked decent as a pro so far and matches up well physically with Wlad (he's actually slightly the bigger man).

[Noblet10]

Originally Posted by NikkiNeversleep

Roy Jones Jr. would never get KO'd by any MMA fighter, neither would Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Frasier, Mayweather, or Pacman. One past their prime boxer getting KO'd doesnt mean anything, probably left boxing because they couldnt hang anymore ;)

There are other ways to KO a fighter other than punches or even strikes to the head. I doubt any of them currently have much ability to defend against a top kickboxer in MMA rules. Also, it's not just the striking that makes KOs possible in MMA. I'm sure all of them could potentially be KOed by a slam as well. You must be ready of striking and grappling in MMA. Fighters can fake a TD and come up and punch.

The boxing vs MMA debate is stupid overall. There are idiots on both sides. I like both sports.

[Discipulus]

I'm sorry--what, beyond the title, is making us think this guy is a boxer? This clown would get smashed just the same in a boxing match.

[Chagaev]

Boxer, MMA fighter, judo player, bjj guy- means nothing. Just generic terms.

It's like saying "manager". Could be that kid at McDonald's making short of 40k a year, or a big timer making billions. And a lot of others in between.
Same word, but huge disparity between backgrounds, education, skills and means.

Between your average boxer, judo, bjj guy and the top of the crop, the difference is so big that it's not even the same game.

Regarding boxing, taking all that punishment to the head is not going to make your chin iron, is gonna wear it down. Then a boxer is going to leave the sport where he can't cut it anymore, looking for a payday elsewhere.

What is making a boxer harder to KO are exactly the things missing in MMA: timing, the sense of distance, the "eye", rolling with the punches, seeing it coming.
And not because the striking game is different here, but because these are the harder abilities to master, requiring a lot of talent and work.

Look at Anderson Silva. What he does is what I'm talking about and he looks spectacular in MMA.
Now look at GSP: correct, disciplined, but limited striking. Just good grammar, no poetry, no finess. And that's why he is struggling on the feet against sub-par competition.

MMA is/ was about evolution, about taking from others sports what's missing and MMA still has a lot to learn from boxing.
JDS saying how he sees holes in the game of Klitchkoes and that he could KO them on their feet is the equivalent of those guys thinking they're gonna bite and gauge a Gracie on the ground, in my view.

Sure, one can say that the boxer will be choked on the ground, subbed, kicked in the legs, head, even KOed.
But hating and denying boxing is childish and will take you nowhere. Seeing it at as a rich source of knowledge is what what can make a good MMA artist great.

[Discipulus]

A good boxer shouldn't be taking that much punishment.

[DesertSin]

Originally Posted by consortium11

Davis Haye and Wladamir Klitschko praise Junior dos Santos.

Junior calls Wladamir boring, says he could knock him out, that there a lots of holes in his game and that neither Klitschko finishes fights (for the record Wladamir has stopped 50 opponents in 61 bouts, around 82% while Vitali has stopped 41 opponents in 47 bouts, around 87%. JDS has stopped 13 of 16 opponents, around 81%)

That's an MMA fighter reacting to boxers being an ass about him?

If Junior said that he's highly delusional. Nothing about his game makes me think he could hang with a world class boxer. Get real. He wouldn't make it past a jab.

[goleta83**]

I wasn't going to watch but then said fuck it, it's gotta be worth it. It was. WHAT A STUPID FAT FUCK. I'm laughed so hard when the fat ass dropped. I bet he feels like a little bitch.

And who was the little shirtless kweer that rolled into the ring at the end?

[KilledByDeath]

went in there thinking he was invincible, hope he learned his lesson and doesnt act like an ass next time he is given an opportunity to show his skills.

[FEDORRULEZ]

Originally Posted by vishal-ajj

Can someone please embed! Thanks.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/wat...gn=scribol.com

funny stuff