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Old 02-29-2012, 09:51 PM   #61
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Hey guys!

I am waiting for my P95 to get shipped. i ordered from budsgunshop.com since they had the lowest price. Once I pick it up, I will get it cleaned and go to a shooting range. I am going to take a basic firearm class which is $150. It will be 4 hour class.

I will decide if I should get a shotgun or a rifle after I get some training done. I am a white belt at shooting guns lol

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Old 02-29-2012, 11:59 PM   #62
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How old are you? A firearm is a good choice as is a taser but it depends. Tasers have their upsides: they will put pretty much anyone down or atleast disable them, they are less lethal which may or may not be a good thing, they are light, etc. However, they take too long to reload so if you miss and someone has a gun you are screwed. they are pretty much useless at long ranges, they aren't good for multiple attackers, they are about as much money as a decent gun ($500-$600 i believe), and versus a gun i wouldn't feel very safe. They are also illegal in some states or require a license.

A gun is a more serious weapon obviously. A gun can stop a threat quickly, and stop someone else wielding a weapon/gun quickly. You can also take on multiple attackers quickly. Plus they have much more intimidation factor obviously. It sounds like you prefer the 9mm, which is exactly what i would recommend. Good 9mm Ammo can have plenty of stopping power and the recoil is a lot more manageable, especially for a newer shooter. A 9mm also holds more ammo than the bigger cartridges. 9mm Ammo is also cheap. I'd keep practicing shooting and gun safety and continue to learn and then go from there. Some handguns i'd recommend would be:

Sig Sauder P226
Springfield XD and XDM Series
Smith & Wesson M&P Series Handguns
CZ 75
Glocks
Beretta 92
Ruger SD9

You can also go with a shotgun, although i don't know that much about Shotguns so i'll leave that to someone else. However i know Remington (870) and Mossberg (500, 590) both make nice shotguns for fairly cheap.

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Old 03-01-2012, 09:55 AM   #63
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If you want to deal/posses a post 1986 manufactured full auto weapons you have to be a Class 3 dealer. Not the same as a FFL. You have to already have an FFL before you can apply for your SOT .

A Class 3 SOT dealer is a dealer of NFA firearms
A Class 2 SOT manufacturer is a manufacturer of NFA firearms
A Class 1 SOT importer is an importer of NFA firearms


If it is a pre 1986 full auto your comments are %100 correct.

A civilian can't own a post 1986 manufactured full auto weapon. So the USAS-12 they were talking could not be possessed by a civilian without becoming some kind of dealer. The person wouldn't own it directly. The business would.


So you guy's are both correct depending on the specifc weapon being discussed.
I stand corrected. I didn't think about when the USAS was produced. Thanks for correcting my error.

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Old 03-01-2012, 09:59 AM   #64
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lol. Love all the serious answers in here.

Why not just use the gun?

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Old 03-01-2012, 10:51 AM   #65
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If you want to deal/posses a post 1986 manufactured full auto weapons you have to be a Class 3 dealer. Not the same as a FFL. You have to already have an FFL before you can apply for your SOT .

A Class 3 SOT dealer is a dealer of NFA firearms
A Class 2 SOT manufacturer is a manufacturer of NFA firearms
A Class 1 SOT importer is an importer of NFA firearms


If it is a pre 1986 full auto your comments are %100 correct.

A civilian can't own a post 1986 manufactured full auto weapon. So the USAS-12 they were talking could not be possessed by a civilian without becoming some kind of dealer. The person wouldn't own it directly. The business would.


So you guy's are both correct depending on the specifc weapon being discussed.
I was going on what I was told a while back. He seems to have a much deeper knowledge than I. I got lucky being right about the USAS as I was not aware of the pre 1986 thing.

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Old 03-01-2012, 10:52 AM   #66
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Why not just use the gun?
Which gun? The OP mentioned several.

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Old 03-01-2012, 10:57 AM   #67
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:14 AM   #69
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