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Old 03-28-2012, 08:36 AM   #11
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they are the right shape, but they don't actually shoot anything so how on earth can you tell if you are moving fast enough?
This isn't something you can try with real equipment. That could lead to a very broken finger of the "shooter".
These drills are done so you can have the movement in muscle memory. Having someone pull the trigger in a drill only tests you against that person, plus unless you are using paintball guns (very unrealistic) or Simunition it will only be a guessing game as to where the gun was when the trigger was pulled anyway.
If you are ever in one of these situations, you can only pray that you move fast enough for the shot to miss, or at a minimum hit nothing vital.


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Old 03-28-2012, 09:42 AM   #12
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TS, tell us about training disarms with real guns. How exactly do you do it without breaking fingers and ripping skin and tendons apart?

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Old 03-28-2012, 01:20 PM   #13
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TS, tell us about training disarms with real guns. How exactly do you do it without breaking fingers and ripping skin and tendons apart?
well creepy stalker guy, you use a nerf gun or an airsoft gun with low impact (won't hurt too much on impact) and don't do finger breaking techniques.

this technique

Human Weapon - Krav Maga - Pistol Disarm - YouTube

is a good one to practice as it doesn't break the finger unless you specifically try to break the finger (as you turn the gun in the opposite direction of your body which just happens to be the direction which won't break the finger).

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Old 03-28-2012, 01:23 PM   #14
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This isn't something you can try with real equipment. That could lead to a very broken finger of the "shooter".
These drills are done so you can have the movement in muscle memory. Having someone pull the trigger in a drill only tests you against that person, plus unless you are using paintball guns (very unrealistic) or Simunition it will only be a guessing game as to where the gun was when the trigger was pulled anyway.
If you are ever in one of these situations, you can only pray that you move fast enough for the shot to miss, or at a minimum hit nothing vital.
none of us are neo, nobody could dodge nerf darts or airsoft pellets at point blank range if the trigger was pulled before they were already out of the way.

(at a speed of 25 feet per second, which is a nerf guns speed, in order to dodge the dart after it had been fired at arms reach which is one foot away you would have to move out of the way in 1/25th of a second which is impossible)

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Old 03-28-2012, 01:48 PM   #15
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Personally, I like Rev's technique.

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Old 03-28-2012, 02:10 PM   #16
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alas, most of us don't have the decades of harsh training it takes to master such a skillful technique such as the one he showed

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alas, most of us don't have the decades of harsh training it takes to master such a skillful technique such as the one he showed
This is the beginning of wisdom.

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