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Old 02-17-2011, 11:26 AM   #21
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Fedor lost because he does not train BJJ.



He was mounted and did not even tried to get out.
Wtf were you watching?

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Old 02-17-2011, 11:29 AM   #22
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I think Werdum is somewhere in between a small and medium heavyweight. When I think "small heavyweight" I think Fedor, Cro Cop, Randy, and Cain. When I think medium heavyweight I think Gonzaga, Mir, Sergei, and Barnett. (and when I think big heavyweight I think Bigfoot, Brock, Carwin, Rogers)

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Old 02-17-2011, 11:32 AM   #23
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I think Werdum is somewhere in between a small and medium heavyweight. When I think "small heavyweight" I think Fedor, Cro Cop, Randy, and Cain. When I think medium heavyweight I think Gonzaga, Mir, Sergei, and Barnett. (and when I think big heavyweight I think Bigfoot, Brock, Carwin, Rogers)
but Cain is bigger than Werdum.

Cain is 247 lbs

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Old 02-17-2011, 11:36 AM   #24
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Even though he is at 240lbs - I was at the last Striekforce show and he looked the biggest and tallest on the stage when all 8 fighters came out. To me he looked taller and bigger than Antonia Silva, the same impression i got when he was taking pictures with fans after the show -he looked huge. On the other hand, Alistar Overeem was the 2nd smalest one after Fedor. Go figure.

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Old 02-17-2011, 11:37 AM   #25
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yep...fedor and werdum are only like 10 pounds apart.
yes, that's my point.

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Old 02-17-2011, 11:37 AM   #26
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but Cain is bigger than Werdum.

Cain is 247 lbs
Yeah, the whole small/medium/big thing is pretty nebulous and arbitrary.. Cain has fought between (I think) 236 and 244 and is 6'1". Werdum has fought between approx 238 and 256 and is 6'4". He has a bigger frame IMO.

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Old 02-17-2011, 11:49 AM   #27
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I think the weight issue is BS. Fedor has beaten larger opponents,people seem to forget that. Fedor has not fought the same since AA. He basically just stands there and looks for the one shot kill like the AA and Rogers fight.
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This. He didn't even try to do anyyyything off his back.... very, very primitive, flop to back then flop to stomach

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Old 02-17-2011, 11:57 AM   #28
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This. He didn't even try to do anyyyything off his back.... very, very primitive, flop to back then flop to stomach
Primitive? Its a strong word to use would you like to share your achievement in life?

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I think Werdum was about 228-230 when he fought Fedor. Like Oicho said, I think 240 is the heaviest Werdun has ever competed at.
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Werdum weighed in at 256 (- UFC 90 WEIGH-IN RESULTS | MMAWeekly.com) against JDS in the UFC but when in shape he is around 240 as the poster below pointed out.In his fight with Fedor he weighed in at 238.5 but was in a lot better shape then the JDS fight obviously,Fedor just looked his usual chubby self.

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yeah but Werdum has way more quality weight.

Fedor at 230lbs = chubby, fat
Werdumi at 240lbs = in shape

so no Werdum isnt undersized in the HW div. He is average
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that being said rewatch the bigfoot fight, i think he dropped werdum and he was winning until late in the fight. a loss is a loss and it was very close so i wouldnt rule him out in a rematch
Bigfoot says he wasn't prepared to go three rounds hard and wilted in that fight. He said that after that fight he trained to go a full three rounds.

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