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Old 01-08-2012, 04:44 PM   #1
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Trevor Smith: Kim Winslow has No Business in MMA

Last Night Trevor “Hot Sauce” Smith put his 5 fight win streak on the line at StrikeForce against Gian Villante in the 205lbs division. Trevor Smith was hit early and went to the canvas. As per his fighting style, Smith takes a lot of damage in his fights, but always seems to recover well. Smith had taken a few unanswered blows to the head as he attempted to get a leg and reverse the position. All of a sudden, upon attempting to reverse the position, referee Kim Winslow jumped in and stopped the fight. Smith was in mid transition of positions and actually working to improve his position when the fight was stopped. Later in the night, after having stopped this fight early, referee Kim Winslow then stopped the bout between King Mo and Lorenz Larkin late. Larkin took several punches unanswered after already going limp. The winner King Mo, was very outspoken afterwards about the horrible late stoppage. In this interview, Smith contributes the late stoppage as an attempt for Referee Winslow to make up for the early stoppage in his fight. Unfortunately, two wrongs do not make a right and both bouts ended in controversy. Here what fighter Trevor Smith says in regards to the bout below. His camp will file for a no contest and the fighter believes that referee Kim Winslow “Has no business in the sport.” For someone to work as hard as Smith has and to lose the momentum of a 5 fight win streak in this fashion is rather poor and unfortunate.


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Old 01-08-2012, 04:56 PM   #2
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Couldn't understand his voice for shit.

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Old 01-08-2012, 04:57 PM   #3
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Winslow is a pretty bad ref. Maybe she will improve with experience. Dan Mirgliotta used to be horrible too but is now a great ref imo.

Trevor Smith will unfortunately not be successful with his attempt to have his fight turned into a no-contest.

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Old 01-08-2012, 04:58 PM   #4
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That was a terrible stoppage and then Mo complaining about her not stopping his fight soon enough, it's like she did two opposite extreme's here....pretty late stoppage and a very early stoppage. She needs to go back to reffing school or stick to reffing women's fights...it's a shame guys careers can get screwed over by a bad decision from a ref.

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What exactly are the credentials needed to become a referee for an MMA event?

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So a fight stopped perhaps early, and then a fight stopped perhaps a little too late?

It sounds like she may have been attempting to correct her earlier mistake in the second fight, as she told Mo she was going to allow for the fighter to actually go out before jumping in. She could have been attempting to do the right thing in both circumstances, regardless if she got things wrong.

Im all for holding refs responsible, believe me. Ask Herb Dean lol. But lets not lynch the woman. Like with many things, you learn as you go.

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yeah it was a piss poor stoppage.

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It really was horrible. He was obviously rolling for a leg, no question, plain as day. I think the ref should know about martial arts if they really want to protect the fighter or care about their job for that matter.

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That was a terrible stoppage and then Mo complaining about her not stopping his fight soon enough, it's like she did two opposite extreme's here....pretty late stoppage and a very early stoppage. She needs to go back to reffing school or stick to reffing women's fights...it's a shame guys careers can get screwed over by a bad decision from a ref.
You mean like Cyborg/Finney?

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You mean like Cyborg/Finney?
Well yeah, I understand that was a horrible stoppage too but I don't really care for Women's MMA anyway.

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