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Old 07-03-2011, 03:22 AM   #271
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I'm going to have to disagree simply because of their role supporting/defending the Republic. Also no one in the prequels acted unaware or confused while meeting a Jedi suggesting people where well aware of them.

This a universe with holographic video recording as well. It'd be nearly impossible to ignore the scope of Jedi's involvement in the universe Lucas created with the prequels.

As said before, and I'm convinced of it, Darth Vader was just supposed to be a bad ass in a much lager universe. Simply having Vader getting scrubbed out in the ending of 'A New Hope' suggests to me that the only story Lucas had to tell. If you where writing a story would the baddest man in the Universe and the center of your entire trilogy loose like that in the first chapter? He either completely rewrote the stories to include the Jedi sub-plot as the main story after seeing fans reaction to Darth Vader or he's just been making things up as he goes.
But even in defending the Republic, they wouldn't be patrolling the streets like cops. They would be investigating like FBI agents, and be rarely seen by the pop as a whole.

I doubt that people would have video-ed that much, in SWs comics there are a lot of video recording scambling tech. They'd prolly broadcast that all day long.

I think GL wanted Vader to be like the Black Knight in Willow, a kick@ss knight, in SPACE! But I guess people lied Vader too much, and got to stick around. I like Lucas wanted a cheesy 70's movie, and accidently created something cool.

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Old 07-03-2011, 05:51 AM   #272
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All I'm saying is he should have made sequels instead of prequels, not made nothing. In the long run the prequels are a dead end financially too; the story ends with a story that has already been told. Even the merchandising opportunities are worse because the weapons technology they are peddling is inherently inferior to what came later and the characters mostly all die. As a kid I wouldn't be as interested in a Mace Windu or a young Obi-Wan when I know they both get owned anyways. Whereas if he had done sequels the new characters introduced have limitless future possibilities, and the new starfighters and blasters and whatnot would be inherently superior to the previous class of Star Destroyers and whatnot.
well i'm guessing making prequels were easier, thus easier money.
i'm sure he'll end up making sequels too

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Old 07-03-2011, 06:20 AM   #273
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well i'm guessing making prequels were easier, thus easier money.
i'm sure he'll end up making sequels too
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:36 AM   #274
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:44 AM   #275
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Are there are really good fanfics that redo the prequels? Love to read em now

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Old 07-03-2011, 06:53 AM   #276
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my biggest problem with the movies is the implausibility of the death stars trash compactor.

I maintain that the trash compactor onboard the Death Star in “Star Wars” is implausible, unworkable, and moreover, inefficient.

The Trash Compactor Debate turns on whether the Death Star ejects its trash into space. I, for one, believe it does. Though we never see the Death Star ejecting its trash, we do see another Empire ship, the so-called Star Destroyer, ejecting its trash into space. I therefore see no reason to suspect that Empire protocol dictating that trash be ejected into space would not apply equally to all Empire spacecraft, including the Death Star.

The Death Star clearly has a garbage-disposal problem. Given its size and massive personnel, the amount of waste it generates — discarded food, broken equipment, excrement, and the like — boggles the imagination. That said, I just cannot fathom how an organization as ruthless and efficiently-run as the Empire would have signed off on such a dangerous, unsanitary, and shoddy garbage-disposal system as the one depicted in the movie.

Here are the problems, as I can ascertain them, with the Death Star’s garbage-disposal system:

1. Ignoring the question of how Princess Leia could possibly know where the trash compactor is, or that the vent she blasts open leads to a good hiding place for the rescue crew, why are there vents leading down there at all? Would not vents leading into any garbage-disposal system allow the fetid smell of rotting garbage, spores, molds, etc., to seep up into the rest of the Death Star? Would not it have been more prudent for the designers of the Death Star to opt for a closed system, like a septic tank?

2. Why do both walls of the trash compactor move towards each other, rather than employing a one-movable-wall system that would thus rely on the anchored stability, to say nothing of the strength, of the other, non-moving wall, to crush trash more effectively?

3. Why does the trash compactor compact trash so slowly, and with such difficulty, once the resistance of a thin metal rod is introduced? Surely metal Death Star pieces are one of the main items of trash in need of compacting. It thus stands to reason that the trash compactor should have been better designed to handle the problem of a skinny piece of metal. (And while I hate to be the sort of person who says I told you so, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that a one-movable-wall system would have improved performance.)

4. Why does the trash compactor only compact trash sideways? Once ejected into space, wouldn’t the flattened, living-room-sized, and extremely solid panes of trash that result from such a primitive, unidirectional trash compactor pose serious hazards for Empire starships in the vicinity?

5. And what of the creature that lives in the trash compactor? Presumably, the creature survives because the moving walls do not extend all the way to the floor of the room, where the liquid is. After all, if the walls reached the floor, the creature would be killed each time trash is compacted. The design employed on the Death Star must allow the organic trash to filter down to the bottom, where the parasitic worm-creature devours it. But what happens when heavier pieces of non-organic trash fall down there? Would such trash not get wedged under the doors, causing them to malfunction? Do stormtroopers have to confront the creature each time they retrieve pieces of un-compacted trash?

6. Why not have separate systems for organic and inorganic waste, thus allowing full compaction of the inorganics and a closed sanitary system for the organics?

7. Why does the Empire care, anyway, about reducing its organic garbage output? Are we to believe that the architects of the Death Star, a group of individuals bent on controlling the entire known universe, are also concerned about environmental issues? Would organic garbage rot in space? So what? Furthermore, why has the Empire gone to the trouble of acquiring a frightening parasitic worm-creature and having it eat all organic trash, especially given the aforementioned flaws in the design of the compactor and overall maintenance hassles?

8. Personally, were it up to me, I would have designed special garbage ships instead of employing a crude, cumbersome, and inefficient (to say nothing of unsanitary) compactor-worm combo to deal with the trash.

9. If the Empire insists on ejecting trash into space, why do they bother compacting it? Space is infinite, is it not? In such an environment, it hardly matters what size the trash is. In fact, a persuasive argument can be made that it’s actually better for the trash to take up more space, so that it appears on radar systems as something for Empire ships to avoid. Compacted trash creates smaller chunks of harder trash that would undoubtedly cause serious damage to Empire starships. And needless to say, damage to starships would, in turn, create yet more hassles and headaches for the Empire.

Please understand, gentle reader, I am all for creating hassles and headaches for the Empire. I just doubt that the Empire would have created so many for itself. Q.E.D.

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Spike TV should be renamed "The Star Wars Channel"

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Old 07-03-2011, 07:00 AM   #278
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The trash compactor's were govt pork barrel, in order to prop up some Imperial council member's family business they pointlessly add that into the Death Star's design. they made a battle station, the size of a small moon, you think there wouldn't be all kinds of govt graff in that?

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Old 07-03-2011, 07:11 AM   #279
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The Star Wars prequels are IMO the worst films ever made.

Complete ineptitude on display in terms of screen writing and directing.

If you haven't watched the Redletter Media Reviews, I highly suggest them.

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Old 07-03-2011, 10:07 AM   #280
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The trash compactor's were govt pork barrel, in order to prop up some Imperial council member's family business they pointlessly add that into the Death Star's design. they made a battle station, the size of a small moon, you think there wouldn't be all kinds of govt graff in that?
i'm sure they were in bed with some intergalactic space union as well. atleast the benefits were great!

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