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Old 06-26-2008, 12:27 PM   #31
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why don't you go fight mark coleman, mark hunt, lindland, and hong man choi...let's see how you do.
Lame. Really lame.

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:29 PM   #32
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fedor's wrestling is suspect???? fedor is a world champion at sambo, a form of wrestling, and is probably the best wrestler in mma
LMAO. Is there no end to the idiocy? There are literally hundreds of fighters in MMA who are better wrestlers than Fedor.

Your post is both ignorant and insulting to real practitioners...

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:29 PM   #33
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didnt do it wrong. hes beatin guys his own weight and fought guys nearly twice his size. nobody else does that.
Yes you did. P4P list isn't about fighting bigger fighters, that would be a dumb list to try and make. Other than HWs, who fights much larger opponents? Considering most fighters weigh in at the limit of their wright class, a P4P list by your standards would probably be all HWs and maybe BJ Penn. What's the biggest difference you've seen in a non-HW bout? 5 pounds?

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:30 PM   #34
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didnt do it wrong. hes beatin guys his own weight and fought guys nearly twice his size. nobody else does that.
That isn't what P4P means turd boy...

It means if Fedor was 155 how would he do against BJ?

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:33 PM   #35
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Seriously?

Fedor - 230

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He's fought guys way heavier. Silva lost 4 times, Pierre lost and never fought anyone heavier and Penn tried and lost. Case closed. Next topic please.

you should look up the definition of P4P and then delete this thread.

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:33 PM   #36
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1. He hasn't had a real fight in 2 years.

2. His wrestling is very suspect.

3. GSP, BJ, and Anderson are better.

a. GSP's wrestling is the best in MMA and he's very, very good at everything else.

b. BJ is better at every aspect of the game.

c. Anderson is way better on the feet and still very, very good on the ground

*All of the above have fought incredibly tough fights over the past two years.
Let's not discredit Mark Hunt. Hunt was considered top10 when they fought. And Lindland is formidable at any weight.

Fedor has the best GnP in the sport, comparable only to GSP.

GSP, BJ, and Anderson have all lost. GSP hasn't defended his title, BJ hasn't beaten anyone impressive outside of Sherk lately, and Anderson has a weak division.

Yes, Anderson is better on his feet than Fedor, Anderson is the best stand up MMA fighter in the world right now.

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:34 PM   #37
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Lindland and CC are lighter, faster fighters than Fedor, I was discrediting your point. You have turned it around and discredited CC's UFC resume, which makes no point about the fighter he was in Pride. Lindland and Fedor fought in a ring, hypothetically doesn't mean shit when we're talking about facts.

P4P means exactly comparing the skills of fighters regardless of weight. Whatever you choose to believe, Fedor is the king of game plans, he's the most explosive fighter in MMA, has the best GnP and the best arm bar off of his back. Oh, and he's never been beaten...
Actually Arona beat him, Fedor just got the decision.

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:35 PM   #38
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You're doing it wrong.

P4P isn't about fighting heavier guys; it's about discussing how fighters would stack up if they all weighed the same.
Hahahahaha, good one. In your dreams.

So in your world Fedor is redifining MMA because instead of a theoretical discussion Fedor is actually stepping up and fighting all the bigger guys and winning?

To answer the TS topic question. These forums are infested with people from a certain country who are hanging on the nuts of a certain promotor and organisation from their country. I'm not blaming or insulting, it would probably be the same everywhere but if these p4p polls were promoted internationally I can guarantee a lot of people crying because their idols aren't even relevant internationally. Unlike the hype machine is making them think now.

TS failed to mention Fedor's length in comparison to his opponents too. Besides less mass he is also a lot shorter, a lot shorter even than the weight classes cutting Anderson Silva, and we all know part of Fedor's weight is a good portion of body fat.

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:35 PM   #39
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Actually Arona beat him, Fedor just got the decision.
I've heard that, but was that in a grappling match?

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Old 06-26-2008, 12:35 PM   #40
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Fedor simply hasn't fought enough top competition for the last THREE YEARS!!!
So no one can actualy say were he's at because there's no proof.
He looked super, but some fighters have a short peak, so there you go.

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