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08-29-2012, 03:32 PM
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(UPDATE) Dong Hyun Kim criticising UFC's handling of Asian fighters and fighter's pay
REFRENCE-http://sports.media.daum.net/general/news/combative/breaking/view.html?newsid=20120706151315833
ON FIGHTER'S PAY
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It's ultimately very hard to be a UFC fighter. If you go to America, there are a lot of fighters who are barely eeking by financially. I see some fighters who have fights a few days away doing personal training. A lot of that has to with the UFC being too stingy about sponsorships. Also because of UFC's policies it is really hard to get sponsors for a lot of fighters.
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UFC WIN LOSE POLICY
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If you pay off the training camp and your coaches you honestly don't have much left. Ultimately, you only have one maybe two opportunities to make it big. In mma anyone can lose and when you do lose you go instantly to the back of the line. Look at Rick Story.
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DISADVANTAGES FOR ASIAN FIGHTERS
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And no matter how "fair" the UFC is, the Asian fighters especially Korean fighters are automatically at a disadvantage. Even right before my fight with Demian my airplane ticket cost after getting discounts, was 1,100 dollars(Not to add in me paying for my teammates and coaches to accompany me). And on top of that, it is ludicrously expensive to get ready to train and get a training camp in the US before your fights.
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WHY HE IS SPEAKING OUT
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I am not saying this out of complaint for myself, because compared to my peers I am doing fine financially, but for other Asian fighters it is completely unfair. Because I am older than my peers and because this is the path my fellow Korean fighters are going to take, I am going to say what has to be said. I really took to heart what Bibiano Fernandes said about why he decided to not join the UFC.
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ps: people should commend Kim for having the balls to speak out in behalf of other fighters. Kim himself is doing fine financially.
BINJIN statement on the matter
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Originally Posted by binjin
The UFC DOES pay for airfare and hotel for the fighter + 1. However, for fighters from Korea, we have to come in at least 10 days early (2 weeks is better) in order to get used to the time difference. The UFC tickets flights (and books the hotel) for 4 or 5 days before the fight. So, the fighters from Korea (and other foreign countries) have to pay the difference in fares and the extra days for room and board.
If you assume that a fighter is going to bring, at least, their coach and a sparring partner (for KTT, they bring me as well), that means the fighter is paying for 2 extra plane tickets (usually between $1200-2000 RT from Seoul). Add in 5 or 6 days of room and board for 4-5 guys and it starts to add up! Then take out US federal and state taxes, then the guys get taxed again in Korea. Subtract paying the fees to the coach and sparring partner... and what's the fighter left with? Unless they get a bonus (or two), or are making a really good base pay, not much.
If you think about the fact that KZ (before the Poirier fight) was making $6,000 as base pay, then you'll realize that for a lot of our fights in the US, we end up losing money. But, the fighters do it hoping to build up to bigger paydays and more sponsor money.
I think the $1,100 that Stun Gun mentioned was probably the difference in fares. The UFC pays for the basic fare, but if you decide to change your travel dates, the fighter is responsible for paying the difference.
A lot of people say it's the same for all foreign fighters, not just Asians, but the main difference is that for South American fighters there is little/no time difference. For European fighters, the time adjustment is easier because there isn't as much of a time difference to begin with AND it's harder to adjust to travelling east, as opposed to west. I don't know why that is, but it's definitely different. We have a hard time when going from Asia to the US, but coming from the US to Asia is not as hard (same for Europe to the US).
I would honestly say that I doubt KZ would have been able to win any of his fights if he came to the US on the pre-determined date (i.e. If we didn't come in at least 10 days early). I've seen the fighters on the 4-5 day in the US and there's no way that they could compete at top form at that point. But, who knows, maybe our guys just suffer from jetlag worse than everyone else. (?)
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Last edited by Hufusopem; 08-30-2012 at 02:34 AM.
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08-29-2012, 03:34 PM
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Wait, fighters pay for their own flight? WTF
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08-29-2012, 03:34 PM
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Wait, fighters pay for their own flight? WTF
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yup all non us fighters do this
its pretty crazy
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08-29-2012, 03:34 PM
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War Dong!
Speak, brotha, end this tyranny! FREEEEEEEDOM!
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08-29-2012, 03:35 PM
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I agree. Didnt kim get paid like 12000 his last fight? Lame.
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08-29-2012, 03:35 PM
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The 88 refers to a car--not H H.
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08-29-2012, 03:36 PM
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the fighters need a union if they want any control, otherwise its whatever dana and the ufc want or go do something else
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08-29-2012, 03:36 PM
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hmmmm
a asian fighter wont be in the ufc for long!!
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08-29-2012, 03:37 PM
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Preach, brother! Good for him being vocal but I'm sure some Zuffie's will complain about him.
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08-29-2012, 03:37 PM
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wow, dong's got impressive english
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