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Old 08-23-2013, 09:32 AM   #11
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The UFC has been watering down their cards for a while now and I think its starting to catch up. They give us 2 significant fights per card and if we're lucky we'll get 1 or 2 extra pretty cool fights. But the rest of the card is filled with no names, women, and little people.

Hopefully the UFC starts to take note, we're not paying for that shit.

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:34 AM   #12
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Do you realize how many people have to be paid to do one of these events? You're talking about 100's of people, staff, etc that require a healthy salary to do their jobs. The UFC also does not receive 100% of the PPV fee, they receive a small percentage and the cable companies get the rest.

Some of you have no clue how expensive it is to put on one of these events. At 200K buys, I'd be willing to bet they barely broke even.
Doesn't every fighter's sponsor have to pay the UFC $50k "sponsorship tax", 10 fights, that's 20 fighters = $1,000,000.

Wasn't this on free TV in Brasil? How much does the UFC charge TV advertisers for their ads? Probably not cheap. Plus all the overpriced food, drinks, souvenirs, etc., that they sold at the event. There are a lot of other revenue streams in addition to the ticket sales.

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:34 AM   #13
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Do you realize how many people have to be paid to do one of these events? You're talking about 100's of people, staff, etc that require a healthy salary to do their jobs. The UFC also does not receive 100% of the PPV fee, they receive a small percentage and the cable companies get the rest.

Some of you have no clue how expensive it is to put on one of these events. At 200K buys, I'd be willing to bet they barely broke even.
I agree 100%. They've also talked about how it was like 2005 or something that they started to make profits, and I believe that's right around the time all their PPV's started doing 200,000+ buys. Don't quote me on that, it's just what I seem to recall.

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:35 AM   #14
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Looks like Shad is no longer top 5 draw anymore.. Crazy how a couple of loses can reduce your stock price.

Top 5 draws:
-Cain
-JBJ
-GSP
-Rhonda
-Anderson Silva?

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:35 AM   #15
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Doesn't every fighter's sponsor have to pay the UFC $50k "sponsorship tax", 10 fights, that's 20 fighters = $1,000,000.

Wasn't this on free TV in Brasil? How much does the UFC charge TV advertisers for their ads? Probably not cheap. Plus all the overpriced food, drinks, souvenirs, etc., that they sold at the event. There are a lot of other revenue streams in addition to the ticket sales.
Haha also valid points.

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:36 AM   #16
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Do you realize how many people have to be paid to do one of these events? You're talking about 100's of people, staff, etc that require a healthy salary to do their jobs. The UFC also does not receive 100% of the PPV fee, they receive a small percentage and the cable companies get the rest.

Some of you have no clue how expensive it is to put on one of these events. At 200K buys, I'd be willing to bet they barely broke even.
Between sponsorships and 200k buys at $45-55 a pop... I'd be willing to bet you're out of your rabid ass mind if you think they barely broke even.

That's the most ridiculous shit I've seen on Sherdog in awhile, and that's a bold statement.

Edit: oh.. And ticket sales and who knows what else. Zuffa is doing quite well for itsself

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:37 AM   #17
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i didnt order either one

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:38 AM   #18
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Looks like Shad is no longer top 5 draw anymore.. Crazy how a couple of loses can reduce your stock price.

Top 5 draws:
-Cain
-JBJ
-GSP
-Rhonda
-Anderson Silva?
Ronda only has 1 PPV under her belt, and that was with a strong (on paper) co-main event. I'm surprised this many people are proclaiming her as a proven draw. By far the UFC's biggest draw is GSP. Jones has also proven to be able to carry a card into the half-million buys mark by himself (conversely, GSP can go between half mil and a mil).

I think Cain sells well, but he's also always on good cards it seems. It's tough to say who's a bigger draw between him and Junior imo. Those two are so inextricably linked, that's why this rubber match is so huge (can't wait!)

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:41 AM   #19
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Over saturation, no Brock, too many years selling wolf tickets for fights that didn't deliver(Shad/Page, Shad/Bones, GSP/anyone), less average quality of cards, emergence of new weight classes that aren't ad well-received, nobody has watched TUF in years, current trend in mma to employ play-it-safe tactics usually leading to a decision, etc, etc, etc.

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:42 AM   #20
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Looks like Shad is no longer top 5 draw anymore.. Crazy how a couple of loses can reduce your stock price.

Top 5 draws:
-Cain
-JBJ
-GSP
-Rhonda
-Anderson Silva?
where's mcgregor?

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